Anno domini 2019 Sun, 16 Jun 12:11:42 -0400 Gene Heskett scripsit: > First, I haven't figured out how to get t-bird to quote, or even to > reply to a list posting, so this is all by had, I can't even get > copy/paste to work. > > Dr Klepp asked which system: > > This is the same old asus box, in the house that ran wheezy for years, > but now has an uptodate stretch amd64 install. At least I think its > uptodate, they've made it almost impossible to run synaptic now, > > I ran, late yesterday about 3 full cycles of memtest, no errors. > > The main problems withkmail seem to be related to index files getting > out of whack and I have restored it by stopping kmail, deleting the > index files for the folder thats crashing, and restarting kmail --sync. > Leave it alone for an hour or so and it will rebuild the index files > again. But its in trouble again if I delete or move a file to the spam > folder. > > And running it from a shell, to get that debugging output, when did > kmail become dependent on N-M, as pasted from tht shell: > > ene@coyote:~$ kmail --sync > [TDE NM Backend ERROR] > [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.6/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1165] > org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files > [TDE NM Backend ERROR] > [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.6/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1165] > org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files > [TDE NM Backend ERROR] > [/build/buildd/tdelibs-trinity-14.0.6/tdecore/tdehw/networkbackends/network-manager/network-manager.cpp:1687] > org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name > org.freedesktop.NetworkManager was not provided by any .service files > kmail: WARNING: readFolderIds(): Found serial number zero at index 38 in > folder /home/gene/Mail/.briarpatch.index.ids > ASSERT: "msn != 0" in > /build/buildd/tdepim-trinity-14.0.6/kmail/kmmsgdict.cpp (468) > kmail: WARNING: writeFolderIds(): Serial number of message at index 0 is > zero in folder coco > kmail: WARNING: writeFolderIds(): Serial number of message at index 0 is > zero in folder coco > gene@coyote:~$ WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 1) suspended. > WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 2) suspended. > WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 3) suspended. > WeaverThreadLogger: thread (ID: 4) suspended. > kmail: WARNING: Attempt to reference invalid serial number 15648 > kmail: > kmail: WARNING: Attempt to reference invalid serial number 15649 > kmail: > *** KMail got signal 11 (Crashing) > [kcrash] TDECrash: Application 'kmail' crashing... > > Thats one session of kmail, lasted maybe 10 seconds before I clicked on > something and crashed it again. > > As you can see, its fussing about the coco list folder, which is the > parent of around 17 subfolders named ack the year of each ones messages. > Starting year is 2002, goes on to 2018 with the parent folder now > containing the 2019 messages. If kmail survives the year, those will > get moved to a 2019 folder. If it survives, its being a pita and I am > just now learning how to use both t-bird and imap. > > Do you have any ideas? I'm all ears. Thanks Nik. I'd suggest, you move your kmail folder to a different location, copy it, remove all indices from the copy. killall kmail mv /home/gene/Mail /home/gene/Mail-old cp -a /home/gene/Mail-old /home/gene/Mail find /home/gene/Mail -name \*.index\* -exec rm \{\} \; kmail kmail will start again and rebuild indizes. But I would take a close look at the smart values of the harddisk. An other option could be that the installed software on the harddisk is corrupted. I had some months ago a defect archive in /var/cache/apt/archives and I could not figure out which one it was. Had to delete all archives, then purge the software + dependecies, then reinstall it. That fixed the problem, but did not leave me especially happy, 'cause I could not uderstand how that could happen. First I thoughtthat it was silent bitrot on the SSD :/ Thunderbird has it's own oddities - I am not sure if migrating to that leviathan is a good idea. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting