Anno domini 2019 Thu, 25 Apr 20:46:55 -0500 J Leslie Turriff scripsit: > On 2019-04-19 15:28:14 J Leslie Turriff wrote: > > On 2019-03-21 09:48:36 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > Anno domini 2019 Wed, 20 Mar 23:46:39 -0500 > > > > > > J Leslie Turriff scripsit: > > > > On 2019-03-15 02:52:33 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > > Anno domini 2019 Thu, 14 Mar 22:40:38 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > J Leslie Turriff scripsit: > > > > > > On 2019-03-14 20:15:13 Michael wrote: > > > > > > > On Thursday 14 March 2019 06:26:16 pm J Leslie Turriff wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2019-03-11 04:12:29 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > > > > > > Anno domini 2019 Sun, 10 Mar 11:16:03 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .> > J Leslie Turriff scripsit: > > > > > > > > > > On 2019-03-10 10:35:32 BorgLabs - Kate Draven wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Sunday 10 March 2019, J Leslie Turriff wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Is there a way to make TDE aware of running > > > > > > > > > > > > non-Trinity applications so that they can be > > > > > > > > > > > > resurrected after Logout/Login? I have at least one > > > > > > > > > > > > X11-based application (X2 - The Programmer's Editor) > > > > > > > > > > > > that I use extensively, and it would be nice if it > > > > > > > > > > > > could remember across Logout/Login events. I'm > > > > > > > > > > > > wondering if something like a DCOP wrapper might do the > > > > > > > > > > > > job? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Load the application into your autostart dir. > > > > > > > > > > > /home/foo/.trinity/autostart > > > > > > > > > > > Also, check the program's setting to see if it has an > > > > > > > > > > > autostart feature. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, that would work if I wanted it to start at every > > > > > > > > > > login, not just if it was running when I logged out... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Once upon a time there was a little kingdom where all > > > > > > > > > applications held the X11 standards high and the grand master > > > > > > > > > of session management called > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I guess you're saying that there's no way to get TDE > > > > > > > > to notice my X2, then. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can use the autostart dir [1], but you'll need to do the work > > > > > > > yourself. You could add a wrapper to starting X2 and a script in > > > > > > > the autostart dir. Or better would be a check script in the > > > > > > > shutdown dir (if it exists) and a corresponding script in the > > > > > > > autostart dir. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here's some out of context code from something else, > > > > > > > hack-and-slash as needed. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > #!/bin/bash > > > > > > > /path-to-X2/X2 > > > > > > > Pid=`pgrep -f /path-to-X2/X2` > > > > > > > if [ "$Pid" != "" ] ; then > > > > > > > # echo Already running... > > > > > > > # ps "$Pid" > > > > > > > touch /home/foo/.trinity/apps-to-restart/X2 > > > > > > > exit > > > > > > > fi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In any event, what you want can be done, it just might be > > > > > > > painful. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] Mine seems to be called: /home/michael/.trinity/Autostart > > > > > > > > > > > > You're apparently misunderstanding what I'm looking for. I > > > > > > don't want this program to Always start when I login, only when it > > > > > > was running at the time that I previously logged out. That's why I > > > > > > wondered if some sort of DCOP wrapper might be appropriate. > > > > > > > > > > > > Leslie > > > > > > > > > > As your editor is not xsession-aware you have to wrap it some shell > > > > > script, that just saves the state of x2 in the form of commandline > > > > > invocation in a file when it's close due to TDE shutdown. So there is > > > > > no invocation of X2 when no X2 was open when TDE closed the session. > > > > > At TDE login you execute that file with invocations and be happy. > > > > > Sure, you have to manage some stuff like which desktop to put it, > > > > > window placement etc. but that's not that complicated. > > > > > > > > > > Nik > > > > > > > > Yes, but what to put in that wrapper? That's what my original > > > > question was. > > > > > > Ah, ok. I do not know X2, is it this one? > > > http://www.tangbu.com/x2main.shtml If yes, then there is one notable > > > things about the application (but correct me if I'm wrong): The X11 > > > application "xx" does not set the X11 window title to the filename of the > > > file that's edited - which makes it an extremly hostile application and > > > difficult to find the filename in a general solution. The terminal > > > application "x" does neither, but you can get the filename from the > > > current instance if you parse the escape-sequence (<ESC>[H, then some > > > chatter and there comes the filename). > > > > > > Anyway, the geometry of each window and the desktop where it runs on can > > > be found like this: > > > > > > for ID in $(xwininfo -all -root|awk '/"X2 Editor Version 2.08.1"/ {print > > > $1}'); do echo $(xprop -id $ID|awk '/_NET_WM_DESKTOP/{print $3}') \ > > > $(xwininfo -id $ID|awk '/geometry/ {print $2}'| tr -c '[0-9]' ' ') > > > \ $(/do/some/black/magic/to/get/filename/from/X2) > > > done > /some/place/to/store > > > > > > Example /some/place/to/store: > > > 2 484 559 58 0 /tmp/a.txt > > > 4 100 100 100 100 /tmp/b.txt > > > > > > To restore each window you basicly do something like this - nota bene: if > > > x2 were a nice application, you would not have to do this trickery to get > > > it's window id: > > > > > > cat /some/place/to/store | while read DESKTOP W H X Y FILE; do > > > A=$(xwininfo -all -root|awk '/X2 Editor Version 2.08.1/ {print $1}') > > > /path/to/xx $FILE & > > > sleep 1 > > > B=$(xwininfo -all -root|awk '/X2 Editor Version 2.08.1/ {print $1}') > > > ID=$(echo $A $B|tr ' ' '\n'|sort|uniq -u) > > > xdotool set_desktop_for_window $ID $DESKTOP > > > xdotool windowsize $ID $W $H > > > xdotool windowmove $ID $X $Y > > > done > > > > > > I hope that get's you started. As I do not know how you use X2 (xx or x > > > ...), I cannot give you a hint how to obtain the filename of a window > > > instance. > > > > > > Nik > > > > > > > Leslie > > > > Okay, I seem to have a working script (attached) that remembers the > > X applications I'm concerned with (thank you, Nik); now, how do I tell > > Trinity to execute it at shutdown time before it kills said applications? > > > > Leslie > > rememberXapps > > I just noticed that, while most editors display the path to the file > currently in view in the title bar, that information is not necessarily > complete because more than one file argument might have been passed on the > command line; also, any program switches are not displayed there. > If the program passes its PID to X, the xprop command can retrieve that, and > ps ef can be used to retrieve the original argument list. Unfortunately, X2 > neither displays the current file's path nor passes its PID to X. :-( > > Leslie Yes, that's why you need a wrapper around X2 that saves the commandline somewhere. Like so: # x2wrapper /path-to-X2/X2 $* & echo $! $* > /tmp/$!.commandline Additionally - if you open a file from within the editor - you could run X2 with strace and capture all calls to "open". 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