On Monday 03 December 2018 09:12:48 Thierry de Coulon wrote: > On Monday 03 December 2018 16.18:37 Michele Calgaro wrote: > > The problem with login when the password has special characters (accents, > > umlaut....) has not been fixed in R14.0.6-dev and R14.1.0-dev. > > https://bugs.pearsoncomputing.net/show_bug.cgi?id=2961 > > I have made a rule to *not* use accents, special characters or spaces in > *nix (passwords, filenames and so). Once you've got used to this life is > easier (I do use @ in password though). > > This sort of things also brings problems when you copy between different > OSes. > > Thierry > N.B. Just so I don't hijack this thread, I have changed the heading a little. If readers have quality complaints, please direct them to the usual places. I gave up on accents, special characters, etc., a long time ago, for filenames, etc., in *nix systems. As the spelling of my surname, in some German instances, contains an umlaut (long since lost), and as there are some who may want to preserve such items, I avoided comment. However, the trouble it causes in *nix systems, or in transferring files among different systems, is not worth it. For passwords, however, (and NOT login names), I totally disagree. All those quirky characters help to protect your security from script kiddies with password crackers. The difference between brute-force cracking a passwords of, say, 10 characters, varies between something like 2 hours and 20 million years, when the only difference is using all those "extra characters". I read all this somewhere, and don't have any direct practical experience of password cracking; except once, about 20 years ago now, when my own password got cracked - after which, I set myself to learn Linux and make for myself a more secure system. So don't try to pin my down on my authority for this statement; but if I must, I will look up some references on password security just to prove my point that I am an insufferable pedant. Most *nix systems, so far as I know, don't have problems with "extra characters" for passwords (but I haven't tried umlauts). I did note that Q4OS, though, would not allow me to use extra characters on its first installation; I never got farther than that, and looked for something else, and hope that this isn't a sign of things to come (i.e., less secure passwords). Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting