On Wednesday 03 October 2018 16:12:30 Kate Draven wrote: > > On Wednesday 03 October 2018 10:41:10 Felmon Davis wrote: > > > On Wed, 3 Oct 2018, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > > > Am Dienstag, 2. Oktober 2018 schrieb deloptes: > > > >> Marvin Jones wrote: > > > >>> All of this "stuff" is Religion. > > > >> > > > >> Religion, Ideology, Philosophy > > > > > > > > All good reasons to fetch forks and torches, pile up the bonfires > > > > and hunt for ... oh, it's oktober ... > > > > > > however I'd warn against belittling ethical concerns as "religion, > > > ideology, philosophy" in the pejorative sense of the words (even when > > > we disagree). > > > > > > f. > > > > Since we are going far off-topic, I would remind everybody that all this > > talk > > > of "religion, ideology, philosophy" (pejorative or not) started with the > > notion that our choice of software and/or operating system is somehow > > a "political action" or a rebellion. (Choice of software meaning, e.g., > > proprietary versus so-called "open source", or better, free/libre.) > > > > I pointed out that some would try to frame all our words and actions (or > > lack > > > of them) in political terms, as I used to be confronted by Marxists who > > used that argument. In the same way, our choice of food (kosher/halal, or > > not) > > may > > > be regarded by some as a religious choice. And so on. > > > > All these are types of fundamentalist thinking (about which you and I > > have > > had > > > discussions already). I see no harm in the universal awakening to a kind > > of "everything is love" experience, the desire to help others, to > > identify one's own being with every atom in the Universe, to get a sense > > that everything is Divine. This is a sort of "diversity is unity" > > paradox. The problem creeps in when, for example, those of a literalist > > bent would try to force everybody everywhere into their narrow > > interpretation of [*fill in the blank here*]. And this is why "religion, > > ideology, philosophy" come to be regarded as negative, or mostly > > negative. > > > > So the question is, How to achieve the greatest degree of freedom, > > happiness and fulfillment for the most people, while yet not infringing > > on that of others, or offending against their way of life? The short > > answer is, It > > can't > > > be done; not really. We can only try to broaden our experiences and > > understanding, act with good will and generosity towards others, and hope > > and > > > trust for the same in return. > > > > Regarding how this principle applies to software: Run GNU/Linux, with the > > TDE > > > desktop. Problem solved. > > > > For myself, by the way, I am glad that I cannot swim. That way, I will > > drown and fail the test, and spare myself getting burned at the stake. > > > > Bill > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > As a born and raised Irish witch, I can say this. > We believe in simple things. > > "My freedoms end, when such freedoms infringe upon another" > "Live and Let Live" > "To each their own" > "Never assume to understand another, instead ask them to teach about > themselves." > "Never redefine another person's words." > > There's more but I think I got what counts for this. > > I choose gnu linux and kde because they worked. Everything else came after. > No politics no religion, no nothing. I needed a tool that would actually > work and as it turns out, was within me price range.. free. > > I don't know how this was started. I will blame William of Morder, as I > always do, just easiest thing to do. In any case, that's all I have to say. > Hope I haven't offended anyone. > > Kate > The Great and Terrible. > > > Glad to be useful for something. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting
