Re: Re: TDE, Debian Install Wiki page (unclear/errors?)

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On Friday 17 August 2018 02:18:41 pm deloptes wrote:
> Michael wrote:
> > Whatever the correct instructions are, is being forced to upgrade from
> > say ‘7.x - wheezy’ to ‘9.x - stretch’ accurate?  But, that does seem to
> > directly conflict with the information presented in “1.1 R14.0.x series,”
> > which implies I can stay on ‘7.x - wheezy’ and install R14x.
>
> Hi,
> you can use TDE 14.X with whatever underlaying linux distribution. The
> condition is that tde should be compiled against the packages/libraries of
> this distribution.
> So watch out to add the correct sources to the source lists.
>
> As far as upgrade is concerned in debian it is not safe to skip a version -
> example wheezy -> stretch is risky and not recommended. What debian
> recommends is wheezy -> jessie -> stretch.
>
> Whatever you do - the TDE source list should match the distro version.
>
> I hope it helps
>
> regards
>
> PS: regarding changing wiki - if you don't want or don't have permissions
> to do it, provide detailed instruction what you think needs to be changed.
> I couldn't understand exactly what you mean at first reading.

Hi Del,

I can change the wiki, I don't know what to change it to ;)

My background is 95% CentOS with 5% Ubuntu 14.04 as a test of a 'more 
convenient' working environment.

Based upon what you've said, then yes there is a serious problem with the 
Debian wiki page as the instructions as given (AKAIU) are going to upgrade 
their distribution instead of just upgrading their TDE version.

This section from the Debian Aptitude instruction page, also explicitly states 
not to use 'full-upgrade,' so again the instructions on TDE Debian Wiki are 
almost guaranteed to be 'wrong.'

https://wiki.debian.org/Aptitude
How to upgrade your distribution

Upgrading from one stable release to the next (e.g. Lenny to Squeeze) is done 
by following the release notes for your architecture. For most people with 32 
bit systems that means the Release Notes for Intel x86. For most with 64 bit 
systems that means the Release Notes for AMD64.

Using full-upgrade in the regular course of events is no longer the 
recommended practice (unless you are running sid, in which case you should 
not need to be reading this.)

Minor release upgrades (e.g. from lenny 5.0.1 to 5.0.2) and security updates 
are done with safe-upgrade.

    Find out the current version of Debian that you are running: 

$ cat /etc/debian_version

Example for upgrading from, e.g., etch 4.0r1 to 4.0r2 ...etc., or applying 
security upgrades:

# aptitude update
# aptitude safe-upgrade

Looking at the Ubuntu page, the same 'error' has been published:

https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Ubuntu_Trinity_Repository_Installation_Instructions
6.2 Upgrading from an existing R14.0.x or v3.5.13.x installation
sudo aptitude full-upgrade

# # # # #

At my level of 'aptitude' knowledge, I can tell the instructions as given are 
almost guaranteed to be erroneous, and very liable to cause some serious ill 
will, but what the correct instructions for 'aptitude' systems should be is 
beyond me.  Therefore:

Would someone go 'fix' all the TDE 'aptitude' Wiki pages?

Or, if the TDE instructions as given are correct, then explain the 
discrepancies with published 'aptitude' sources?

Best and Thanks,
Michael

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