Am Donnerstag 16 August 2018 schrieb David C. Rankin: > That would be the same as saying KDE was based on IceWm. IceWm as well as > Blackbox (and its forks, Fluxbox, Openbox, etc.. -- the boxtops) were > original code. Neither were Qt3 based. TDE was a continuation of KDE3 based > on Qt3. Information and history on all are available online (Wikipedia is a > good start). > > While both IceWm and Blackbox (and its progeny) are very, very good > window managers, they are not "Desktop Environments". That is a critical > distinction. > > KDE and Gnome were considered desktop environments as they included a > nice set of integrated desktop applications (terminals, editors, > calculators, color choosers, file managers, etc..) with a common look and > feel provided by the toolkits they use (Qt3 in the case of KDE3 and Gtk+2 > in the case of Gnome2, etc..) > > TDE continued the mature KDE3 build on Qt3, that kde.org basically > "left-for-dead" when it went chasing this pipe-dream of Qt4 widgets making > the world a better place to live. (much as Gtk+3 did with Gtk+2/glade when > it ran off with GtkBuildable and css styling of objects) > > TDE, in an inspired bit of forethought, was written with a somewhat > toolkit agnostic tqtinterface layer to prevent being limited to Qt3 only. > However, since KDE4 has become synonymous with "How to totally botch a > desktop", the impetus on toolkit flexibility has lost a bit of necessity. > Qt3 was a robust and well written toolkit and there nothing it lacks > inherently and what security and maintenance is needed is provided > in-house. > > So in short, TDE was a continuation of KDE 3.5.10 which was left for dead > by kde.org and relegated to desktop history. Now kde.org has abandoned KDE4 > and "left-it-for-dead" (though it that case, I doubt you will see anyone > run in to try and save it....) > > Those intimately familiar with desktops, recognized what had been > achieved with KDE3 was special, in terms of flexibility and efficiency and > the human factors taken into the desktop design that minimize the > keystrokes or mouse-clicks required to do a task, and how that philosophy > shared by the team created not only the desktop interface itself, but was > also evident in each of the applications developed as a part of the > project. KDE3 was the result of that ground-up process, the desktop and all > of the application that made up the environment benefiting from that > process in terms of usability and efficiency. > > It is something that can never be captured in a "Let's move to a new > toolkit and port all the applications over" effort. Every time that has > been attempted, it invariably results is a "just get it ported and > working... and let's get a release out" mentality that cannot, and will > never, achieve the same efficiency or usability that a ground-up design > did. Thus KDE4 couldn't and Plasma never will match the elegance, the > integration or the usabilty of the KDE3 desktop environment. > > TDE continues the best of KDE3 -- that's why you are here. Thank you for the nice, concise summary. Stefan --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting
