On Saturday 14 July 2018 23:41:36 deloptes wrote: > William Morder wrote: > > I am contemplating some kind of FrankenDebian hack (or rather, > > FrankenDevuan). I seem to recall that somebody mentioned that sysvinit > > could be installed, and systemd purged, on a Debian system. The do > > upgrades from the Debian repositories, but keep sysvinit and avoid the > > systemd problems. > > I discussed this in the debian user list. I was pointed out that installing > sysv* (don't know exactly which one) replaces systemd as init process. > I have installed > ii sysv-rc 2.88dsf-59.9 > all System-V-like runlevel change mechanism > ii sysvinit-core 2.88dsf-59.9 > amd64 System-V-like init utilities > ii sysvinit-utils 2.88dsf-59.9 > amd64 System-V-like utilities > > systemd is still there, but it is not the init process and all works just > fine. > > ii dbus-user-session 1.10.26-0+deb9u1 > all simple interprocess messaging system (systemd --user > integration) > ii libpam-systemd:amd64 232-25+deb9u3 > amd64 system and service manager - PAM module > ii libsystemd0:amd64 232-25+deb9u3 > amd64 systemd utility library > ii libsystemd0:i386 232-25+deb9u3 > i386 systemd utility library > ii systemd 232-25+deb9u3 > amd64 system and service manager > ii systemd-shim 10-3 > amd64 shim for systemd > > I am pretty happy with this setup. > > regards > > Right, that's where I am headed. I noticed that my Devuan system ran pretty well before I uninstalled other systemd processes. If not for these bugs (or whatever they are) that seem to be something new in Devuan, I was liking Devuan better than Debian. If it didn't involve breaking some rules and the risk of wrecking one's system, they wouldn't call it hacking. :-] Well, anyway, I have been hacking away on my own computers since about 1980-81; and when I briefly studied computer programming in the 1970s, it meant IBM punch cards. So I am not afraid of making a mess of things. It can always be restored. Thanks for this information, as it will help me find my way. I have a lot of Devuan packages that I've saved, but it's good to know what works for other people. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting