On Saturday 14 July 2018 21:16:45 Mike Bird wrote: > On Sat July 14 2018 20:38:56 William Morder wrote: > > Sorry, got to add my 2 cents' worth here. I believe that this must be a > > Devuan bug; there could be problems with slim and tdm-trinity, although I > > think it is immaterial to my point here. > > > > The reason I would trace it to Devuan is that I only ever ran apt-get > > dist-upgrade; I never tried to install slim or xfce, nor libreoffice, > > etc., but these were installed automatically. I had assumed, wrongly, > > that I would get only upgrades of what was already installed. > > To upgrade existing packages use "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade". I always do that, except that I don't put the two commands together. Is there some reason that it is better to run "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" and not "apt-get update" and then afterwards "apt-get upgrade"? > > "apt-get dist-upgrade" is only required in complex situations, e.g. > where other packages must be added or removed to accommodate package > upgrades. This normally only happens when upgrading to a new release. > > Whenever "apt-get dist-upgrade" is needed it is important to carefully > check what apt-get proposes to do and determine to your own satisfaction > that the proposed actions are sensible, safe, and appropriate. > Yes, I ought to have checked the list carefully, but I wasn't expecting any changes, as I had done this same thing many times previously without incident. I will blame it on my messed-up sleep patterns, and try to be more careful in future. > The information from "apt-get rdepends ..." and/or "aptitude why ..." > is the first step on the road to determining whether this is a Devuan > or Debian or PEBCAK problem. > > --Mike > I'll keep all this in mind when I try to get rid of systemd. Thanks for the information. Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting