On 2018-06-22 16:30:09 E. Liddell wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2018 09:17:34 -0700 > > William Morder <doctor_contendo@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I don't know if these issues are really connected; I only know that they > > seem to occur together. Feel free to separate the two issues if that is > > more accurate. > > > > Issue #1 > > I noticed that my system colors are not applied to some applications. In > > particular, the Firefox/Iceweasel and Seamonkey browsers. Sometimes when > > I start up, these take on my KDE4 Plasma color settings (even when KDE4 > > is not installed); sometimes (maybe one-third to one-half of my > > installations), everything in the GUI is white, sort of like in Gnome > > desktops that I've seen. (Again, Gnome is not installed, though I do use > > some standalone applications.) I can make PaleMoon take on my TDE color > > scheme settings, and when I uncheck the button that says "apply to non > > TDE applications", etc., it, too, turns all white like these other apps; > > however, PaleMoon never takes on the color scheme from the KDE4 Plasma > > desktop. And then, at other times, after I install I get my TDE settings. > > (Maybe one out of ten installations, I will have Seamonkey and > > Firefox/Iceweasel use my TDE color scheme settings.) Then again, > > sometimes they will use my KDE4 settings. Both are available in my TDE > > desktop, but only KDE4 settings are available in that desktop. > > Sounds like you're hitting a familiar problem with Linux GUI applications: > they're all built with different widget sets, and attempts to transfer the > colour schemes for different sets around are fraught. > > Currently, there are no less than three versions of QT and two of GTK in > common use, and I find the only way to get them to behave themselves is > to configure them all separately. Browsers in the Firefox family use GTK2 > or GTK3, depending on which browser and which version. > > Unfortunately, I never did find a nice GUI configurator for writing system > GTK configs without a GTK-based desktop installed. QT3 is configured > through TDE, QT4 through KDE4 or the included Trolltech settings widget, > and qt5ct works adequately for QT5. I've used the gnome-tweak-tool for this (in my case to get rid of the yucky sans-serif fonts). On the Appearance tab there's an option called Global Dark Theme. Also, in Firefox, I've installed a theme called Compact Dark, which helps, too. There are numerous other dark themes for Firefox, and probably for Chrome and Opera, too. Leslie > > > TDE > > Trinity Control Center/Colors > > x Apply colors to non-TDE applications > > > > KDE4 > > System Settings/Application Appearance/Colors/Options > > x Apply colors to non-KDE4 applications > > > > I don't so much care if they use the KDE4 settings or the TDE color > > settings, just so long as it's not white. This isn't just that I hate > > that my pretty desktop is spoiled; I started using these settings because > > a white screen triggers a migraine - especially when I am working late at > > night in a dark room. I impose dark screen settings on my default > > browsers and other applications, too, for this reason. Also, there is a > > practical reason: whenever I see a white screen, this usually reminds me > > that I have opened that application as root, so that I am sure to be > > careful I don't really mess up or delete stuff. > > Yeah, sounds about right--I've been setting up my desktops with white text > on black/blue for more than twenty years for similar reasons. > > Try unchecking those two boxes you mention first. Then create a file > .gtkrc-2.0 in your user's home directory and put the following in it: > > gtk-color-scheme = "bg_color: #000044\nfg_color: #fff\nbase_color: > #000\ntext_color: #fff\nselected_bg_color: #0ff\nselected_fg_color: > #000\ntooltip_bg_color: #0ff\ntooltip_fg_color: #000" > > If that causes an abrupt colour change in your browser chrome, it should be > easy enough to work it into a more standard colour scheme by adjusting the > hex. If not, we may have a little more work to do (my file is actually a > lot more extensive and defines a variation on the standard Industrial > style, because that was the easiest way to get usable scrollbars with such > dark colours). > > Styling GTK3 is not that easy, unfortunately--it took me just under 400 > lines of CSS to get something I could live with. I can hand my file over > to you to play with if it turns out you need it (the colour information is > exposed at the top, so fairly easy to change). > > > It occurred to me to try to purge the offending applications, then to try > > to reinstall them from within the KDE4 desktop environment, and to do the > > same within TDE, but this made no difference. Thus far, my only options > > are either to live with the lack of color, or to reinstall my system yet > > again, and hope for the best. > > > > Issue #2 > > This may or may not be related; it could be a permissions problem. I now > > find that some of my external hard drives cannot be mounted or used, > > because I can only access them as root. Even if I wanted to use them as > > root, it means that I cannot access music files with my media player, for > > example. Again, this has happened before, though not often, usually after > > a fresh installation. In the past, it seems the only cure is to reinstall > > everything. However, since I've not got this Devuan Jessie system working > > pretty well, I don't want to mess up a good thing, especially if there is > > an easy fix. > > > > I've already tried changing permissions, and that sort of thing. I am > > guessing that there might be some kind of config files buried somewhere. > > I've searched, but thus far I can find nothing. > > My first instinct would be to check /etc/fstab for missing "user" options > and any odd umasks. Also, udev does funky things with permissions > sometimes. Of course, I'm using a different distro without an automounter, > so I may be way off-base. > > E. Liddell > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: > trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional > commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list > messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ > Please remember not to top-post: > http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting
