Hi! Am Sonntag, 29. April 2018 schrieb William Morder: > > On Sunday 29 April 2018 11:32:08 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Am Sonntag, 29. April 2018 schrieb Greg Madden: > > > protonmail offers (extra cost) a vpn service, afaik, vpn secures the > > > mail from man in the middle, ie. isp's, compromised routers, etc. > > > Encryption leaks some info enroute making vpn neccessary, not an extra. > > > > > > $.02 > > > Greg Madden > > > > Well, I'm not a friend of vpn services. On one hand, i's harder to mantain > > than ssh. On the other, it does not provide with any improvement over e.g. > > sshuttle. And on one foot, I do not trust vpn salestalk since it has bitten > > me more than once... (see, I have still one foot left for standing :-) ) > > > > Nik > > I agree. VPN = snake oil. Maybe not always, but VPNs promise more than they > can deliver. I trust more in the anonymity of Tor (and take my chances with > rogue actors and man-in-the-middle attacks), than to suppose that privacy and > security can be bought. > > There also won't ever be some magic bullet or perfect solution; it will always > be like cat-and-mouse. Encryption keeps getting better, and cracking tools > also get better, and that's how it will be. I just hope for relative success, > to leave few data traces "out there", but I don't imagine that I am > invisible. > > Bill You know what's the funniest part of all of this? Realy bad guys don't use encryption at all - and get away with it. Nik -- Please do not email me anything that you are not comfortable also sharing with the NSA, CIA ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting
