On Sunday 29 April 2018 06:40:04 dep wrote: > said Dr. Nikolaus Klepp: > |The point of protinmail - as I see it - was an email address, that could > | not be associated with a real person. But protonmail changed the initial > | user authentication to require a handy or some other identifyable device, > | so the main purpose is gone. > > not necessarily. while two-factor authentication is offered, it is not > required. > > |But what I miss in kamil+PGPG is an encrypted mail-subject, e.g "Subject: > | Re: more re. tde and qt5" beeing replaced by a random > | string, which gets replaced on the receiver side with an embedded subject > | from within the encrypted mail. Reason is, that a lot of users use a > | subject that tells a lot about the mail content, at least enough to let > | it be sorted in "interesting" or "junk". > > that's the point, and why setting it up to work with kmail requires an > intervening application, the protonmail bridge. normally one would use the > protonmail web interface -- essentially webmail -- which is entirely > encrypted, or a special application that seems to be little more than a > one-site secure browser connected to the protonmail site. (for linux: > https://github.com/protonmail-desktop/application) > > but to use it with kmail or another mail client one needs to employ the > bridge application, which encrypts before sending and decrypts upon > receipt, on which a regular mail client can be hitched. (details > here:https://protonmail.com/support/knowledge-base/third-party-email-client >-integration-outlook-thunderbird-apple-mail-ect/) > > in each case, as i understand it absolutely everything is encrypted: > subject, sender, recipient, the works. > > the advantage to two-factor encryption in the service is of course added > security should someone learn or guess your password but also the service's > claim that with two-factor authentication not even the owners of protonmail > can read your mail. > > i should mention that they offer a free version, which gives you a > protonmail.com email address and limits your storage to 500 mb and each > user to 150 email messages per day. though some features -- using your own > domain, use of protonmail bridge -- are restricted to paid accounts, the > cheapest of which is € 48.00 per year. > > and i think i've carried the forum terribly off-topic. i am not, btw, a > protonmail salesman! > > dep > > Sent with [ProtonMail](https://protonmail.com/) Secure Email. Because > privacy matters. We don't fear going off-topic. Perhaps you missed our long collective digressions concerning the benefits of diet and exercise, and the countless indignities and sufferings that come with age? Bill --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting