On Monday 19 February 2018 20:47:06 Felix Miata wrote: > E. Liddell composed on 2018-02-19 19:15 (UTC-0500): > > On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 16:49:16 -0500 Felix Miata wrote: > >> For me, the wiki page above is quite sufficient, once the target > >> distro installation has been completed. The harder part is finding > >> that page in the first place. From > >> https://wiki.trinitydesktop.org/Trinity_Desktop_Environment it's > >> not obvious to me that > >> > >> TDE > >> Documentation > >> > >> following > >> > >> Main page > >> and > >> Recent changes > >> > >> is how to eventually find it. The left column on that page needs to > >> be wider so that the link is not split over two lines when its font > >> is forced to a legible size. > > > > How large a font size do you need for this to be "legible" to you? > > I'm asking as the person who created the modified skin for the TDE > > wiki--I assumed that 11pt bold Arial/Libre Sans would be sufficient > > for most people using a normal-sized screen (that is, not a phone or > > very small tablet), but if a lot of people are having problems, I > > might have to see about revising it. > > 11pt physical would be a fine and dandy size in that context, but > specifying 11pt in any "current" web browser other than one using the > KHTML engine gets you 11px, which can be vastly different from 11pt, > depending on screen density. CSS since 2.1 or thereabouts made the px > unit exactly equal to the pt unit, making spec-compliant browsers > unable to specify accurate physical sizes unless physical screen > density is equal to 96 DPI. KHTML (Konq) never complied with this > spec, while Gecko browsers do offer a workaround for those willing to > write custom rules using its proprietary mozmm unit. > > If you s/11pt/.917rem/ in #mw-navigation on screen.css:64 you should > get a close approximation of 11pt "physical" size if the near > universal default 16px/12pt remains in effect in the browser in use, > and if you are using any moderately recent 100% spec-compliant browser > (which excludes Konq, which has no rem unit support). > > However, as long as you retain the 170px sidebar width, you'll find > the same problem with overflow I see here as the user's screen density > deviates above 96 DPI. s/170px/10.625rem/ for div#mw-panel in > screen.css:590 might be enough to fix the sidebar width, but doing > that would undoubtedly create need for other sizing rule adjustments. > > http://fm.no-ip.com/SS/KDE/tdeCSS20180219.gif shows what I see. 11px > CSS equates to 30.25% of my browser's default 12pt (20px) size. To put that into further perspective, running firefox on wheezy with 1920x1080 screen, I have to hit the ctrl+ 6 times to get it up to a really comfortable reading size on the wiki's front page for these old eyes. It starts out with characters nominally 3/32" tall. Readable if I lean in to bring my trifocals into focus, but not pleasantly so. -- Cheers, Gene Heskett -- "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order." -Ed Howdershelt (Author) Genes Web page <http://geneslinuxbox.net:6309/gene> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting