Thank you for the comprehensive and interesting description. | I tested Sailfish X with a more modern navigation system on KIA 2017 and | it worked like a charm (phonebook access, recent calls etc - no issues) | ... perhaps it's really time to buy new car :) I thought that only Apple would produce a phone that would require you to buy a new car (and only Apple users would actually do it). I'm foolishly hoping that the Gemini device has a fairly normal Linux API so that just about anything can be downloaded and installed (or compiled and installed), preferably .deb-based. It has 4-gb of RAM and 64-gb of storage and a fast chip, so it should be able to run whatever is thrown at it, as long as there are drivers and the X is robust. (The discussion following the register story included a lengthy conversation about the Nokia devices, though I don't know if the N9 was mentioned.) But now I'll look more closely at the Sailfish OS and the devices that run it. Fortunately, my Honda is 2004 and therefore won't work with anything! Though I still hope to be the first person to get TDE running reliably with all its features on a telephone! -- dep The shortest distance between you and playing great acoustic guitar: the great new instructional DVDs from Marjorie Thompson, available at www.MarjorieThompson.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: trinity-users-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx For additional commands, e-mail: trinity-users-help@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Read list messages on the web archive: http://trinity-users.pearsoncomputing.net/ Please remember not to top-post: http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net/mailing_lists/#top-posting