Re: Kate just shut down my computer!

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On Tuesday 22 October 2024 04:23:12 David C. Rankin via tde-devels wrote:
> On 10/21/24 11:45 PM, J Leslie Turriff via tde-devels wrote:
> > 	I opened Kate to paste some text.  It put up a message about saving
> > existing files or data (the message is gone now of course) and when I
> > declined to save it, the desktop shut down, the system shutdown sequence
> > started, and my machine powered off.
> > 	I'm not sure what logs might have pertinent information about this.
>
> This is just a crystal-ball type guess, the end of the last journal for
> Felix will be the most helpful -- but...
>
> it almost seems like you triggered a shutdown from the desktop that invoked
> (k/tde)shutdown which then triggered the prompt to save unsaved documents
> before continuing. When you chose not to save (or even if you had chosen to
> save) shutdown resumed at that point and finished shutting down...
>
> The brings up my question, before this happened, did anything funny happen
> to the mouse? (e.g. it got bumped, a book or notepad slid on top of it, the
> cat jumped up on the table, etc...) I ask because a right-click on the
> desktop brings up the kshutdown entry (last one in context menu 'Log out
> "leslie"') which if (a mouse drop, cat, etc..) occurred could make it look
> like kate triggered a shutdown when it was actually just a right and left
> mouse-click that triggered it.

	Well, now that you mention it, yes, my mouse stopped working because the
battery dropped below its usable threshold; so what you suggest is
undoubtedly what happened.
	I have added  Solaar to my Autostart manager list in the Control Center (it
wasn't persisting across Login|out) so that I can watch the mouse battery, so
theoretically I will be able to take preemptive action the next time.
>
> (I ask because I've had those occur...) The savior has been with "Advanced
> Shutdown Options" configured you are presented with the Log Out, Shutdown,
> Sleep, etc.. options in the next window which would be telling. And, the
> fact that to then trigger the shutdown inadvertently would require a right
> and two-left clicks. Still possible, but less likely.

	I see in Session Manager => General an option, Use alternative shutdown
dialog layout, but the Help for Session Manager doesn't explain what that
provides?
>
> In the journal output from the last boot, go to the end and back-up to
> where you get the first indication of logoff/shutdown. Grab probably 10
> lines before the start of shutdown through the end. Basically you just want
> to go line-by-line and see if there is anything that stands out that could
> have triggered your shutdown. Posting will just get more eyes on the log
> that may help pick something out. (though absent something really odd, I
> don't expect any smoking-gun)
>
> Since all processes run in virtual-memory now, it's either got to be
> something major like a panic and something non-TDE related, or there is an
> issue in one of the base builds tdelibs/tdebase, etc.. that triggers a
> shutdown -- or your cat has been busy...

	Thank you for sharing this.

Leslie
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