Re: systemd --user fails to start a user service at the first time

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I have a follow-up question inline. Thanks.

On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:47 PM Han <keepsimple@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:25 PM Andrei Borzenkov <arvidjaar@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On 29.10.2021 04:54, Han wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm a newbie to systemd. I encountered a strange problem when using
> systemd user
> service in Debian 10 (hardware: Raspberry Pi 4), systemd version 241.
>
> I posted this question on stackoverflow but didn't get answers yet. Hence
> trying to ask here. My apologies if this is too basic.
>
>    1. I created a new service unit file at here:
>    /home/pi/.config/systemd/user/foo.service
>
> its content looks like this:
>
> [Service]
> ExecStart=/home/pi/test/foo
> WorkingDirectory=/home/pi/test
>
>
>    1. I tried to start this service, but it failed:
>
> $ systemctl --user start foo
> Failed to start foo.service: Unit foo.se

Does it work after

systemctl --user daemon-reload

?

Yes, it worked after `daemon-reload`.  Thank you so much!


"daemon-reload" reloads all unit files in the system.  It seems to me such a big remedy for starting a single service.  Is this the expected workflow or a workaround?  

Also I tried to add a 2nd service "foo2.service" in the same way,  now I don't have to run "daemon-reload" and it can start.  I'm wondering why.

Thanks
Han
 

Han

 

rvice not found.
>
> However, systemd can list this unit file when doing this:
>
> $systemctl --user list-unit-files --type service | grep foo
> foo.service                      static
>
> Moreover, when I added [Install] section in the unit file:
>
> [Install]
> WantedBy=multi-user.target
>

User instance does not have this target.

> and run $systemctl --user enable foo , it worked.
>
> Even more, after that I removed the unit file, and recreated the unit file
> without the [Install] section, now I start the service and the original
> problem is no longer seen.
>
> So it seems like only when I try to create a new user service for the first
> time on the system, without using [Install], it will fail to start.
>
> Any ideas why this is happening? (btw, I don't want to have [Install] for
> this service.)
>
> Or is this a known issue fixed in a later release?
>
> Thanks
>
> Han
>


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