Hi, We have seen this problem: when you open a gnome-terminal, then the shell in that terminal will not have the same keyring (created by pam_keyinit.so) as the one eg in an xterm. This is due to the fact that the xterm ist started by the standard fork/exec mechanism which passes the keyring down to the children and the gnome-teminal (actually gnome-terminal-server) is started by sending a dbus message to some instance which the starts the terminal process. AAMOF the gnome-terminal does not even have a keyring, so if one asks for it ("keyctl show @s"), it is created on the fly. This causes the kernel to create a keyring as a "user session keyring" while the GNOME session (and thus the xterm) has a "session keyring". Has anyone seen this and/or, most important question, does anyone have an idea how to solve this? I know that, strictly speaking, this is not a systemd question, but we're trying to probe many sources to see if anyone has a solution. Josef -- SUSE Linux GmbH Maxfeldstrasse 5 90409 Nuernberg Germany GF: Felix Imendörffer, Mary Higgins, Sri Rasiah HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) _______________________________________________ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel