On 03/20/2018 12:57 AM, Peter A. Bigot wrote: > On 03/19/2018 04:17 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: >> Would be great if you could rework it accordingly and submit it as PR. > > https://github.com/systemd/systemd/pull/8494 > I've addressed most of the review comments but before pushing a new version want to make a change that this proposes very visible, as it affects naming and documentation which is tedious to change multiple times. In this PR, time-sync.target is no longer a Wants= dependency of systemd-timesyncd. The rationale is that simply starting timesyncd does not satisfy the expectations for this synchronization point: setting the clock to what the local time was on last shutdown is problematic, as noted in issue #5097, and also seems to violate the spirit of LSB $timer which implies a After=time-sync.target. Instead that dependency is moved to the new service, which blocks until the kernel has noted that the time is synchronized (not merely set). If this change is acceptable, then I think the new service should be called systemd-time-wait-synchronized (analogous to systemd-networkd-wait-online, as Lennart suggested) as it has nothing to do with timesyncd. Further, it should have its own build option so it can be enabled independently of timesyncd (e.g. on embedded systems that will use ntpd with GPS to set the system time). If this change is not acceptable, then a new synchronization point named something like "time-sync-for-reals.target" should be defined, and that's starting to look ugly. What do y'all think? Peter References: * http://refspecs.linuxbase.org/LSB_2.0.1/LSB-PDA/LSB-PDA/facilname.html