Re: systemd-timesync and journalctl questions

[Uoti Urpala <uoti.urpala@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, 2018-08-24 at 14:52 +0300, David Weinehall wrote:
> The second time-related issue pertains to journalctl.
> 
> It seems that journalctl logs (or at least displays) events in date/clock order, not in
> sequence order. While this is definitely useful when trying to correlate different logs
> against each other, it also means that events that happen after a date adjustment might
> end up before already existing entries, thus breaking the sequentialness of the log,
> as follows:
> 
> Date incorrect set to 2023:
> 
> Log message 1
> Log message 2
> 
> Date corrected to be 2018:
> 
> Log message 3
> Log message 1
> Log message 2
> 
> Typically this is not how we want our log to behave. Is there any way to
> show the log in sequential order?

Within one journal file, entries are stored in the order they are
received, and the normal tools like journalctl will also display events
from within the file in that order. Output like the above shouldn't be
the typical consequence of changing time during a single boot, as the
later entries should usually keep being written in the same file as the
previous ones. (It can happen, but your "reproduction steps" above are
likely incomplete as to what is actually required to see such effects).

Where you can see issues is between entries stored in separate journal
files. Those may not contain information that would allow comparing two
entries stored in the different files by anything other than the
unreliable realtime timestamp.

Note that the journal display code has some fairly serious breakage in
the area of handling messages that may have unreliable timestamps,
which may cause issues such as some messages not being shown at all.
The commit message of the proposed patch in the message linked below is
probably the best writeup (no fixes have been applied to this area
AFAIK):

https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2017-December/039976.html


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