Hi, On 8/5/24 7:00 PM, Dmitry Torokhov wrote: > On Mon, Aug 05, 2024 at 05:45:19PM +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: >> Hi Maxim, >> >> On 8/5/24 5:30 PM, Maxim Mikityanskiy wrote: >>> On Mon, 05 Aug 2024 at 16:16:08 +0200, Hans de Goede wrote: >>>> Commit 07a4a4fc83dd ("ideapad: add Lenovo IdeaPad Z570 support (part 2)") >>>> added an i8042_command(..., I8042_CMD_AUX_[EN|DIS]ABLE) call to >>>> the ideapad-laptop driver to suppress the touchpad events at the PS/2 >>>> AUX controller level. >>>> >>>> Commit c69e7d843d2c ("platform/x86: ideapad-laptop: Only toggle ps2 aux >>>> port on/off on select models") limited this to only do this by default >>>> on the IdeaPad Z570 to replace a growing list of models on which >>>> the i8042_command() call was disabled by quirks because it was causing >>>> issues. >>>> >>>> A recent report shows that this is causing issues even on the Z570 for >>>> which it was originally added because it can happen on resume before >>>> the i8042 controller's own resume() method has run: >>>> >>>> [ 50.241235] ideapad_acpi VPC2004:00: PM: calling acpi_subsys_resume+0x0/0x5d @ 4492, parent: PNP0C09:00 >>>> [ 50.242055] snd_hda_intel 0000:00:0e.0: PM: pci_pm_resume+0x0/0xed returned 0 after 13511 usecs >>>> [ 50.242120] snd_hda_codec_realtek hdaudioC0D0: PM: calling hda_codec_pm_resume+0x0/0x19 [snd_hda_codec] @ 4518, parent: 0000:00:0e.0 >>>> [ 50.247406] i8042: [49434] a8 -> i8042 (command) >>>> [ 50.247468] ideapad_acpi VPC2004:00: PM: acpi_subsys_resume+0x0/0x5d returned 0 after 6220 usecs >>>> ... >>>> [ 50.247883] i8042 kbd 00:01: PM: calling pnp_bus_resume+0x0/0x9d @ 4492, parent: pnp0 >>>> [ 50.247894] i8042 kbd 00:01: PM: pnp_bus_resume+0x0/0x9d returned 0 after 0 usecs >>>> [ 50.247906] i8042 aux 00:02: PM: calling pnp_bus_resume+0x0/0x9d @ 4492, parent: pnp0 >>>> [ 50.247916] i8042 aux 00:02: PM: pnp_bus_resume+0x0/0x9d returned 0 after 0 usecs >>>> ... >>>> [ 50.248301] i8042 i8042: PM: calling platform_pm_resume+0x0/0x41 @ 4492, parent: platform >>>> [ 50.248377] i8042: [49434] 55 <- i8042 (flush, kbd) >>>> [ 50.248407] i8042: [49435] aa -> i8042 (command) >>>> [ 50.248601] i8042: [49435] 00 <- i8042 (return) >>>> [ 50.248604] i8042: [49435] i8042 controller selftest: 0x0 != 0x55 >>> >>> What exactly is the issue? Is it just a few errors in dmesg, or does >>> 8042 stop responding completely? >> >> When this issue happens at resume the touchpad stops sending events >> completely because the i8042 driver's resume() method fails and exits >> early. > > We actually retry up to 5 times so we usually get the right response > from the controller. Additionally on x86 we do not abort > initialization/resume even if controller selftest still fails after all > the retries. > >> >>> >>> I've seen something similar when I enabled the touchpad while moving the >>> cursor, but it was just a matter of a few lines in dmesg and a protocol >>> resync, both touchpad and keyboard worked after that. >> >> Right, the problem is that in this case the i8042's resume() method >> is failing, which I believe causes the Elan ps/2 driver to not get >> re-attached to the aux port on resume. > > There's a69ce592cbe0 ("Input: elantech - fix touchpad state on resume > for Lenovo N24") that sends disable/enable pair as part of Elan touchpad > resume handling which unwedges the touchpad. > >> >> >>> >>>> Dmitry (input subsys maintainer) pointed out that just sending >>>> KEY_TOUCHPAD_OFF/KEY_TOUCHPAD_ON which the ideapad-laptop driver >>>> already does should be sufficient and that it then is up to userspace >>>> to filter out touchpad events after having received a KEY_TOUCHPAD_OFF. >>> >>> I believe it's not the case (at least it wasn't back then). The whole >>> point of my patch in the first place was to make touchpad toggle work >>> properly on Z570. >>> >>> Userspace (GNOME) supports two variants of hardware: >>> >>> 1. Laptops that disable touchpad themselves and send out >>> KEY_TOUCHPAD_ON/OFF to report the status. Upon receiving these keycodes, >>> GNOME just shows the status pop-up and relies on firmware to disable the >>> touchpad. >>> >>> 2. Laptops that just send KEY_TOUCHPAD_TOGGLE whenever the key is >>> pressed. GNOME maintains its own touchpad state and disables it in >>> software (as well as showing the pop-up). >> >> You're right I had forgotten about this. There is really no reason >> why GNOME cannot also suppress events after a TOUCHPAD_OFF event, >> but atm it indeed does not do this. We could fix this by patching: >> plugins/media-keys/gsd-media-keys-manager.c of gnome-settings-daemon >> to also update the TOUCHPAD_ENABLED_KEY setting when receiving >> KEY_TOUCHPAD_ON/OFF. Something which I think we should do to, >> but that will not help solve this bug since we cannot rely >> on users having a fixed g-s-d. >> >> So: self-NACK for this patch. (which is a bummer because I really >> liked being able to just remove this) >> >>> That means, userspace is not filtering out events upon receiving >>> KEY_TOUCHPAD_OFF. If we wanted to rely on that, we would need to send >>> KEY_TOUCHPAD_TOGGLE from the driver, but we actually can't, because Z570 >>> is weird. It maintains the touchpad state in firmware to light up the >>> status LED, but the firmware doesn't do the actual touchpad disablement. >>> >>> That is, if we use TOGGLE, the LED will get out of sync. If we use >>> ON/OFF, the touchpad won't be disabled, unless we do it in the kernel. > > Still, poking the touchpad directly at a random time is not something > that we should be doing. The command may come in the middle of touchpad > initialization or in the middle of resuming, or at another inopportune > moment - as you mentioned yourself toggling while using the touchpad > results in a spew in dmesg. > > We have "inhibit/uninhibit" sysfs controls that allow suppressing input > events form a device, they should be used instead. Using those indeed would be better, I guess this requires 2 things: 1. Some helper to find the struct input_dev for the input_dev related to the ps/2 aux port 2. In kernel API / functions to do inhibit/uninhibit (maybe these already exist?) Anyways I have to focus on camera stuff for the rest of this week, so lets continue this discussion next week. Regards, Hans