On Thu, Feb 29, 2024 at 05:57:38PM +0100, Ricardo Ribalda wrote: > Oliver, friendly ping Seconded :-) We can help with the implementation, but we would like your guidance on the direction you think this should take. > On Mon, 19 Feb 2024 at 16:13, Ricardo Ribalda wrote: > > > > Hi Oliver > > > > Would you prefer a version like this? > > > > https://lore.kernel.org/all/20231222-rallybar-v2-1-5849d62a9514@xxxxxxxxxxxx/ > > > > If so I can re-submit a version with the 3 vid/pids. Alan, would you > > be happy with that? > > > > Regards! > > > > On Tue, 13 Feb 2024 at 11:47, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 02:04:31PM -0500, Alan Stern wrote: > > > > On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 01:22:42PM +0100, Oliver Neukum wrote: > > > > > On 04.02.24 11:52, Laurent Pinchart wrote: > > > > > > Hi Ricardo, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for the patch. > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > > > sorry for commenting on this late, but this patch has > > > > > a fundamental issue. In fact this issue is the reason the > > > > > handling for quirks is in usbcore at all. > > > > > > > > > > If you leave the setting/clearing of this flag to a driver you > > > > > are introducing a race condition. The driver may or may not be > > > > > present at the time a device is enumerated. And you have > > > > > no idea how long the autosuspend delay is on a system > > > > > and what its default policy is regarding suspending > > > > > devices. > > > > > That means that a device can have been suspended and > > > > > resumed before it is probed. On a device that needs > > > > > RESET_RESUME, we are in trouble. > > > > > > > > Not necessarily. If the driver knows that one of these devices may > > > > already have been suspend and resumed, it can issue its own preemptive > > > > reset at probe time. > > > > > > > > > The inverse issue will arise if a device does not react > > > > > well to RESET_RESUME. You cannot rule out that a device > > > > > that must not be reset will be reset. > > > > > > > > That's a separate issue, with its own list of potential problems. > > > > > > > > > I am sorry, but it seems to me that the exceptions need > > > > > to go into usbcore. > > > > > > > > If we do then we may want to come up with a better scheme for seeing > > > > which devices need to have a quirk flag set. A static listing probably > > > > won't be good enough; the decision may have to be made dynamically. > > > > > > I don't mind either way personally. Oliver, could you try to find a good > > > solution with Ricardo ? I'll merge the outcome. -- Regards, Laurent Pinchart
