On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 12:11:04PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > On Tue, Aug 01, 2023 at 10:32:45AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > On 7/31/23 14:15, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 09:34:29AM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote: > > > > > Ha!, I was poking around the same thing. My hack below seems to (so far, > > > > > <20 boots) help things. > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, dumb question: > > > > How comes this bisects to "sched/fair: Remove sched_feat(START_DEBIT)" ? > > > > > > That commit changes the timings of things; dumb luck otherwise. > > > > Kind of scary. So I only experienced the problem because the START_DEBIT patch > > happened to be queued roughly at the same time, and it might otherwise have > > found its way unnoticed into the upstream kernel. And just to set the record straight, this bug has been in mainline for about a year, since v5.19. Thanx, Paul > > That makes me wonder if this > > or other similar patches may uncover similar problems elsewhere in the kernel > > (i.e., either hide new or existing race conditions or expose existing ones). > > > > This in turn makes me wonder if it would be possible to define a test which > > would uncover such problems without the START_DEBIT patch. Any idea ? > > Thank you all for tracking this down! > > One way is to put a schedule_timeout_idle(100) right before the call to > rcu_tasks_one_gp() from synchronize_rcu_tasks_generic(). That is quite > specific to this particular issue, but it does have the virtue of making > it actually happen in my testing. > > There have been a few academic projects that inject delays at points > chosen by various heuristics plus some randomness. But this would be > a bit of a challenge to those because each kernel only passes through > this window once at boot time. > > Please see below for my preferred fix. Does this work for you guys? > > Back to figuring out why recent kernels occasionally to blow up all > rcutorture guest OSes... > > Thanx, Paul > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > diff --git a/kernel/rcu/tasks.h b/kernel/rcu/tasks.h > index 7294be62727b..2d5b8385c357 100644 > --- a/kernel/rcu/tasks.h > +++ b/kernel/rcu/tasks.h > @@ -570,10 +570,12 @@ static void rcu_tasks_one_gp(struct rcu_tasks *rtp, bool midboot) > if (unlikely(midboot)) { > needgpcb = 0x2; > } else { > + mutex_unlock(&rtp->tasks_gp_mutex); > set_tasks_gp_state(rtp, RTGS_WAIT_CBS); > rcuwait_wait_event(&rtp->cbs_wait, > (needgpcb = rcu_tasks_need_gpcb(rtp)), > TASK_IDLE); > + mutex_lock(&rtp->tasks_gp_mutex); > } > > if (needgpcb & 0x2) {