Hi Alan, Thanks for taking the time out to share more details ! +1 on your comment: " A big problem with the USB gadget framework is that it does not clearly state which routines have to run in process context and which have to run in interrupt/atomic context." I started to work on allow_connect and other suggestions that you had made. In one of the previous comments you had mentioned that the connect_lock should be a spinlock and not a mutex. Right now there are four conditions that seem to be deciding whether pullup needs to be enabled or disabled through gadget->ops->pullup(). 1. Gadget not deactivated through usb_gadget_deactivate() 2. Gadget has to be started through usb_gadget_udc_start(). soft_connect_store() can start/stop gadget. 3. usb_gadget has been connected through usb_gadget_connect(). This is assuming we are getting rid of usb_udc_vbus_handler. 4. allow_connect is true I have so far identified two constraints here: a. gadget->ops->pullup() can sleep in some implementations. For instance: BUG: scheduling while atomic: init/1/0x00000002 .. [ 26.990631][ T1] Call trace: [ 26.993759][ T1] dump_backtrace+0x104/0x128 [ 26.998281][ T1] show_stack+0x20/0x30 [ 27.002279][ T1] dump_stack_lvl+0x6c/0x9c [ 27.006627][ T1] __schedule_bug+0x84/0xb4 [ 27.010973][ T1] __schedule+0x6f0/0xaec [ 27.015147][ T1] schedule+0xc8/0x134 [ 27.019059][ T1] schedule_timeout+0x98/0x134 [ 27.023666][ T1] msleep+0x34/0x4c [ 27.027317][ T1] dwc3_core_soft_reset+0xf0/0x354 [ 27.032273][ T1] dwc3_gadget_pullup+0xec/0x1d8 [ 27.037055][ T1] usb_gadget_pullup_update_locked+0xa0/0x1e0 [ 27.042967][ T1] udc_bind_to_driver+0x1e4/0x30c [ 27.047835][ T1] usb_gadget_probe_driver+0xd0/0x178 [ 27.053051][ T1] gadget_dev_desc_UDC_store+0xf0/0x13c [ 27.058442][ T1] configfs_write_iter+0x100/0x178 [ 27.063399][ T1] vfs_write+0x278/0x3c4 [ 27.067483][ T1] ksys_write+0x80/0xf4 b. gadget->ops->udc_start can also sleep in some implementations. For example: [ 28.024255][ T1] BUG: scheduling while atomic: init/1/0x00000002 .... [ 28.324996][ T1] Call trace: [ 28.328126][ T1] dump_backtrace+0x104/0x128 [ 28.332647][ T1] show_stack+0x20/0x30 [ 28.336645][ T1] dump_stack_lvl+0x6c/0x9c [ 28.340993][ T1] __schedule_bug+0x84/0xb4 [ 28.345340][ T1] __schedule+0x6f0/0xaec [ 28.349513][ T1] schedule+0xc8/0x134 [ 28.353425][ T1] schedule_timeout+0x4c/0x134 [ 28.358033][ T1] wait_for_common+0xac/0x13c [ 28.362554][ T1] wait_for_completion_killable+0x20/0x3c [ 28.368118][ T1] __kthread_create_on_node+0xe4/0x1ec [ 28.373422][ T1] kthread_create_on_node+0x54/0x80 [ 28.378464][ T1] setup_irq_thread+0x50/0x108 [ 28.383072][ T1] __setup_irq+0x90/0x87c [ 28.387245][ T1] request_threaded_irq+0x144/0x180 [ 28.392287][ T1] dwc3_gadget_start+0x50/0xac [ 28.396866][ T1] udc_bind_to_driver+0x14c/0x31c [ 28.401763][ T1] usb_gadget_probe_driver+0xd0/0x178 [ 28.406980][ T1] gadget_dev_desc_UDC_store+0xf0/0x13c [ 28.412370][ T1] configfs_write_iter+0x100/0x178 [ 28.417325][ T1] vfs_write+0x278/0x3c4 [ 28.421411][ T1] ksys_write+0x80/0xf4 static int dwc3_gadget_start(struct usb_gadget *g, struct usb_gadget_driver *driver) { struct dwc3 *dwc = gadget_to_dwc(g); ... irq = dwc->irq_gadget; ret = request_threaded_irq(irq, dwc3_interrupt, dwc3_thread_interrupt, IRQF_SHARED, "dwc3", dwc->ev_buf); Given that "1016fc0c096c USB: gadget: Fix obscure lockdep violation for udc_mutex" has been there for a while and no one has reported issues so far, perhaps ->disconnect() callback is no longer being invoked in atomic context and the documentation is what that needs to be updated ? Thanks, Badhri On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 10:27 AM Alan Stern <stern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 08:44:57AM -0700, Badhri Jagan Sridharan wrote: > > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 8:07 AM Alan Stern <stern@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 10:49:49AM -0400, Alan Stern wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 19, 2023 at 04:30:41AM +0000, Badhri Jagan Sridharan wrote: > > > > > chipidea udc calls usb_udc_vbus_handler from udc_start gadget > > > > > ops causing a deadlock. Avoid this by offloading usb_udc_vbus_handler > > > > > processing. > > > > > > > > Look, this is way overkill. > > > > > > > > usb_udc_vbus_handler() has only two jobs to do: set udc->vbus and call > > > > usb_udc_connect_control(). Furthermore, it gets called from only two > > > > drivers: chipidea and max3420. > > > > > > > > Why not have the callers set udc->vbus themselves and then call > > > > usb_gadget_{dis}connect() directly? Then we could eliminate > > > > usb_udc_vbus_handler() entirely. And the unnecessary calls -- the ones > > > > causing deadlocks -- from within udc_start() and udc_stop() handlers can > > > > be removed with no further consequence. > > > > > > > > This approach simplifies and removes code. Whereas your approach > > > > complicates and adds code for no good reason. > > > > > > I changed my mind. > > > > > > After looking more closely, I found the comment in gadget.h about > > > ->disconnect() callbacks happening in interrupt context. This means we > > > cannot use a mutex to protect the associated state, and therefore the > > > connect_lock _must_ be a spinlock, not a mutex. > > > > Quick observation so that I don't misunderstand. > > I already see gadget->udc->driver->disconnect(gadget) being called with > > udc_lock being held. > > > > mutex_lock(&udc_lock); > > if (gadget->udc->driver) > > gadget->udc->driver->disconnect(gadget); > > mutex_unlock(&udc_lock); > > > > The below patch seems to have introduced it: > > 1016fc0c096c USB: gadget: Fix obscure lockdep violation for udc_mutex > > Hmmm... You're right about this. A big problem with the USB gadget > framework is that it does not clearly state which routines have to run > in process context and which have to run in interrupt/atomic context. > People therefore don't think about it and frequently get it wrong. > > So now the problem is that the UDC or transceiver driver may detect > (typically in an interrupt handler) that VBUS power has appeared or > disappeared, and it wants to tell the core to adjust the D+/D- pullup > signals appropriately. The core notifies the UDC driver about this, and > then in the case of a disconnection, it has to notify the gadget driver. > But notifying the gadget driver requires process context for the > udc_lock mutex, the ultimate reason being that disconnect notifications > can race with gadget driver binding and unbinding. > > If we could prevent those races in some other way then we wouldn't need > to hold udc_lock in usb_gadget_disconnect(). This seems like a sensible > thing to do in any case; the UDC core should never allow a connection to > occur before a gadget driver is bound or after it is unbound. > > The first approach that occurs to me is to add a boolean allow_connect > flag to struct usb_udc, together with a global spinlock to synchronize > access to it. Then usb_gadget_disconnect() could check the flag before > calling driver->disconnect(), gadget_bind_driver() could set the flag > before calling usb_udc_connect_control(), and gadget_unbind_driver() > could clear the flag before calling usb_gadget_disconnect(). > > (Another possible approach would be to change gadget->deactivated into a > counter. It would still need to be synchronized by a spinlock, > however.) > > This will simplify matters considerably. udc_lock can remain a mutex > and the deadlock problem should go away. > > Do you want to try adding allow_connect as described here or would you > prefer that I do it? > > (And in any case, we should prevent the udc_start and udc_stop callbacks > in the chipidea and max3420 drivers from trying to update the connection > status.) > > Alan Stern