Re: [PATCH v4 0/6] KVM: MMU: performance tweaks for heavy CR0.WP users

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On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, Jeremi Piotrowski wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 14, 2023 at 09:49:28AM -0700, Sean Christopherson wrote:
> > +Jeremi
> > 
> 
> Adding myself :)

/facepalm

This isn't some mundane detail, Michael!!!

> > On Fri, Apr 14, 2023, Mathias Krause wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> > > OTOH, the backports give nice speed-ups, ranging from ~2.2 times faster
> > > for pure EPT (legacy) MMU setups up to 18(!!!) times faster for TDP MMU
> > > on v5.10.
> > 
> > Anyone that's enabling the TDP MMU on v5.10 is on their own, we didn't enable the
> > TDP MMU by default until v5.14 for very good reasons.
> > 
> > > I backported the whole series down to v5.10 but left out the CR0.WP
> > > guest owning patch+fix for v5.4 as the code base is too different to get
> > > all the nuances right, as Sean already hinted. However, even this
> > > limited backport provides a big performance fix for our use case!
> > 
> > As a compromise of sorts, I propose that we disable the TDP MMU by default on v5.15,
> > and backport these fixes to v6.1.  v5.15 and earlier won't get "ludicrous speed", but
> > I think that's perfectly acceptable since KVM has had the suboptimal behavior
> > literally since EPT/NPT support was first added.
> > 
> 
> Disabling TDP MMU for v5.15, and backporting things to v6.1 works for me.
> 
> > I'm comfortable backporting to v6.1 as that is recent enough, and there weren't
> > substantial MMU changes between v6.1 and v6.3 in this area.  I.e. I have a decent
> > level of confidence that we aren't overlooking some subtle dependency.
> > 
> > For v5.15, I am less confident in the safety of a backport, and more importantly,
> > I think we should disable the TDP MMU by default to mitigate the underlying flaw
> > that makes the 18x speedup possible.  That flaw is that KVM can end up freeing and
> > rebuilding TDP MMU roots every time CR0.WP is toggled or a vCPU transitions to/from
> > SMM.
> > 
> 
> The interesting thing here is that these CR0.WP fixes seem to improve things
> with legacy MMU as well, and legacy MMU is not affected/touched by [3].

Yep, that's totally expected.  The final patch in this series allows KVM to elide
VM-Exits when the guest toggles CR0.WP (but only on Intel hardware).  Avoiding
VM-Exit entirely is a big performance win when the guest is constantly toggling
CR0.WP, e.g. each exit is roughly 1500 cycles, versus probalby something like ~50
for a native write to CR0.WP.

> So I think you can consider Mathias' ask independent of disabling TDP MMU. On the one
> hand: there is no regression here. On the other: the gain is big and seems important
> to him.

Ya, that's the compromise I am proposing.  Give v6.1 the full tune-up, but only
do the super safe change for v5.15.



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