On 19/12/2022 07:59, Peter Zijlstra wrote: > On Mon, Dec 19, 2022 at 11:17:39AM +0100, Greg KH wrote: > >> What specific programs have this problem and what are the exact results >> of it? > > IIRC it was God of War (2018) that triggered this initially. But it's > possible more games were found to tickle this specific thing. Since it's > binary only gunk that is unlikely to ever get fixed we need something to > allow for it. > > (slow motion Kratos yelling B...o...y...) > >> Also, this is really a new feature and not really a "fix", but one could >> argue a lot that this is a "resolve a performance problem" if you want >> to and have the numbers to back it up {hint} > > Right, there were some, they should indeed have been included. Thanks Peter, that's exactly it - the current report is linked on commit message. About performance numbers, the only "numbers" I have is: game is unplayable, according to the report "When I launch God of War through Steam or Lutris I get around 25 fps, on lowest settings and at 10% resolution scaling", FPS for for games is double of that usually. I understand this is not a regular fix in which something is completely broken, but it does fix a behavior introduced on kernel that prevent some userspace binaries to properly run, in practice. Ofc some will argue that we already have the kernel parameter, but it's different - requires reboot and bootloader understanding. If 6.0.y is too much, I'd ask we have it at least for 6.1, which is long-term, that will help a lot of people for sure. Thanks, Guilherme