On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 01:23:11PM +0100, Cristian Marussi wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 12:56:39PM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 05:02:15PM +0100, Cristian Marussi wrote:
> > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 03:05:43PM +0800, YaxiongTian wrote:
> > > > Hi Cristian
> > > >
> > > > �� There may be a problem with my qq email client, � I don't see my mail in
> > > > the
> > > >
> > > > communityI had to switch outlook email.Forgive me if you've received
> > > > multiple emails.
> > > >
> > > No worries.
Hi,
> > >
> > > > >Problem is anyway, as you said, you'll have to pick this timeout from the
> > > > >related transport scmi_desc (even if as of now the max_rx_timeout for
> > > > >all existent shared mem transport is the same..) and this means anyway
> > > > >adding more complexity to the chain of calls to just to print a warn of
> > > > >some kind in a rare error-situation from which you cannot recover anyway.
> > > >
> > > > � Yes,it has add more complexity about Monitorring this time.For system
> > > > stability,the safest thing to do is to abort the transmission.But this will
> > > > lose performance due to more complexity in such unusual situation.
> > > >
> > > > >Due to other unrelated discussions, I was starting to think about
> > > > >exposing some debug-only (Kconfig dependent) SCMI stats like timeouts,
> > > > errors,
> > > > >unpexpected/OoO/late_replies in order to ease the debug and monitoring
> > > > >of the health of a running SCMI stack: maybe this could be a place where
> > > > >to flag this FW issues without changing the spinloop above (or
> > > > >to add the kind of timeout you mentioned but only when some sort of
> > > > >CONFIG_SCMI_DEBUG is enabled...)...still to fully think it through, though.
> > > >
> > > > � I think it should active report warn or err rather than user queries the
> > > > information manually.(i.e fs_debug way).Becasue in system startup\S1\S3\S4,
> > > > user can not queries this flag in Fw,they need get stuck message
> > > > immediately.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Looking more closely at this, I experimented a bit with an SCMI stack based on
> > > mailbox transport in which I had forcefully set the spin_until_cond() to
> > > spin forever.
> > >
> > > Even though on a normal SCMI system when the SCMI stack fails at boot
> > > the system is supposed to boot anyway (maybe slower), this particular
> > > failure in TX path led indeed to a system that does not boot at all and
> > > spits out an infinite sequence of:
> > >
> > > [ 2924.499486] rcu: INFO: rcu_preempt detected stalls on CPUs/tasks:
> > > [ 2924.505596] rcu: 2-...0: (0 ticks this GP) idle=1be4/1/0x4000000000000000 softirq=50/50 fqs=364757
> > > [ 2924.514672] (detected by 4, t=730678 jiffies, g=-1119, q=134 ncpus=6)
> > > [ 2924.521215] Task dump for CPU 2:
> > > [ 2924.524445] task:kworker/u12:0 state:R running task stack: 0 pid: 9 ppid: 2 flags:0x0000000a
> > > [ 2924.534391] Workqueue: events_unbound deferred_probe_work_func
> > > [ 2924.540244] Call trace:
> > > [ 2924.542691] __switch_to+0xe4/0x1b8
> > > [ 2924.546189] deferred_probe_work_func+0xa4/0xf8
> > > [ 2924.550731] process_one_work+0x208/0x480
> > > [ 2924.554754] worker_thread+0x230/0x428
> > > [ 2924.558514] kthread+0x114/0x120
> > > [ 2924.561752] ret_from_fork+0x10/0x20
> > >
> > > I imagine this is the annoying thing you want to avoid.
> > >
> > > So experimenting a bit with a patch similar to yours (ignoring the timeout
> > > config issues and using the static cnt to temporarily stuck and revive the SCMI
> > > transport)
> > >
> > > ------>8-----
> > > diff --git a/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/shmem.c b/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/shmem.c
> > > index 0e3eaea5d852..6dde669abd03 100644
> > > --- a/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/shmem.c
> > > +++ b/drivers/firmware/arm_scmi/shmem.c
> > > @@ -8,6 +8,7 @@
> > > #include <linux/io.h>
> > > #include <linux/processor.h>
> > > #include <linux/types.h>
> > >
> > > #include "common.h"
> > >
> > > @@ -29,17 +30,28 @@ struct scmi_shared_mem {
> > > u8 msg_payload[];
> > > };
> > >
> > > +static int cnt = 50;
> > > void shmem_tx_prepare(struct scmi_shared_mem __iomem *shmem,
> > > struct scmi_xfer *xfer)
> > > {
> > > + ktime_t stop;
> > > +
> > > /*
> > > * Ideally channel must be free by now unless OS timeout last
> > > * request and platform continued to process the same, wait
> > > * until it releases the shared memory, otherwise we may endup
> > > * overwriting its response with new message payload or vice-versa
> > > */
> > > - spin_until_cond(ioread32(&shmem->channel_status) &
> > > - SCMI_SHMEM_CHAN_STAT_CHANNEL_FREE);
> > > + stop = ktime_add_ms(ktime_get(), 35);
> > > + spin_until_cond(((--cnt > 0) && ioread32(&shmem->channel_status) &
> > > + SCMI_SHMEM_CHAN_STAT_CHANNEL_FREE) ||
> > > + ktime_after(ktime_get(), stop));
> > > + if (ktime_after(ktime_get(), stop)) {
> > > + pr_warn_once("TX Timeout !\n");
> > > + cnt = 10;
> > > + return;
> > > + }
> > > +
> > > /* Mark channel busy + clear error */
> > > iowrite32(0x0, &shmem->channel_status);
> > > iowrite32(xfer->hdr.poll_completion ? 0 : SCMI_SHMEM_FLAG_INTR_ENABLED,
> > > ----8<-------------
> > >
> > > With the above I had in fact a system that could boot even with a
> > > failing/stuck SCMI transport, but, as expected the SCMI stack
> > > functionality was totally compromised after the first timeout with no
> > > possibility to recover.
> > >
> > > Moreover I was thinking at what could happen if later on after boot the
> > > SCMI server should end in some funny/hogged condition so that it is,
> > > only temporarily, a bit slower to answer and release the channel: with
> > > the current implemenation the Kernel agent will spin just a little bit
> > > more waiting for the channel to be freed and then everything carries
> > > without much hassle, while with this possible new timing-out solution
> > > we could end up dropping that transmission and compromising the whole
> > > transport fucntionality for all the subsequent transmissions.
> > >
> > > So, again, I'm not sure it is worth making such a change even for debug
> > > purposes, given that in the worst scenario above you end up with a
> > > system stuck at boot but for which the SCMI stack is anyway compromised
> > > and where the only solution is fixing the server FW really.
> > >
> > > I'll ask Sudeep is thoughts about the possible hang.
> > >
> >
> > I am fine with the patch as it provides more info on what is going wrong
> > in the system. Please post the patch separately with all the info/background.
> >
>
> Ok, I'll cleanup and post adding Reported/Suggested-by: YaxiongTian
>
> I'm inclined to set the timeout comfortably more than the transport RX
> timeout. (2xrx_timeout ?) to account for overhead and avoiding to bail
> out on some transient delays.
Just posted a fix for this like agreed.
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-arm-kernel/20221028140833.280091-3-cristian.marussi@xxxxxxx/T/#u
Thanks,
Cristian
