On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 02:41:57PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 10:27:10PM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 9:15 PM Herbert Xu <herbert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > Please revert this as test_and_set_bit was always supposed to be > > > a full memory barrier. This is an arch bug. > > > > Yes, the bitops are kind of strange for various legacy reasons: > > > > - set/clear_bit is atomic, but without a memory barrier, and need a > > "smp_mb__before_atomic()" or similar for barriers > > > > - test_and_set/clear_bit() are atomic, _and_ are memory barriers > > > > - test_and_set_bit_lock and test_and_clear_bit_unlock are atomic and > > _weaker_ than full memory barriers, but sufficient for locking (ie > > acquire/release) > > > > Does any of this make any sense at all? No. But those are the > > documented semantics exactly because people were worried about > > test_and_set_bit being used for locking, since on x86 all the atomics > > are also memory barriers. > > > > From looking at it, the asm-generic implementation is a bit > > questionable, though. In particular, it does > > > > if (READ_ONCE(*p) & mask) > > return 1; > > > > so it's *entirely* unordered for the "bit was already set" case. > > > > That looks very wrong to me, since it basically means that the > > test_and_set_bit() can return "bit was already set" based on an old > > value - not a memory barrier at all. > > > > So if you use "test_and_set_bit()" as some kind of "I've done my work, > > now I am going to set the bit to tell people to pick it up", then that > > early "bit was already set" code completely breaks it. > > > > Now, arguably our atomic bitop semantics are very very odd, and it > > might be time to revisit them. But that code looks very very buggy to > > me. > > > > The bug seems to go back to commit e986a0d6cb36 ("locking/atomics, > > asm-generic/bitops/atomic.h: Rewrite using atomic_*() APIs"), and the > > fix looks to be as simple as just removing that early READ_ONCE return > > case (test_and_clear has the same bug). > > > > Will? > > Right, this looks like it's all my fault, so sorry about that. > > In an effort to replace the spinlock-based atomic bitops with a version > based on atomic instructions in e986a0d6cb36, I inadvertently added this > READ_ONCE() shortcut to test_and_set_bit() because at the time that's > what we had (incorrectly) documented in our attempts at cleaning things > up in this area. I confess that I have never been comfortable with the > comment for test_and_set_bit() prior to my problematic patch: > > /** > * test_and_set_bit - Set a bit and return its old value > * @nr: Bit to set > * @addr: Address to count from > * > * This operation is atomic and cannot be reordered. > * It may be reordered on other architectures than x86. > * It also implies a memory barrier. > */ > > so while Peter and I were trying to improve the documentation for > atomics and memory barriers we clearly ended up making the wrong call > trying to treat this like e.g. a cmpxchg() (which has the > unordered-on-failure semantics). > > It's worth noting that with the spinlock-based implementation (i.e. > prior to e986a0d6cb36) then we would have the same problem on > architectures that implement spinlocks with acquire/release semantics; > accesses from outside of the critical section can drift in and reorder > with each other there, so the conversion looked legitimate to me in > isolation and I vaguely remember going through callers looking for > potential issues. Alas, I obviously missed this case. > I just to want to mention that although spinlock-based atomic bitops don't provide the full barrier in test_and_set_bit(), but they don't have the problem spotted by Hector, because test_and_set_bit() and clear_bit() sync with each other via locks: test_and_set_bit(): lock(..); old = *p; // mask is already set by other test_and_set_bit() *p = old | mask; unlock(...); clear_bit(): lock(..); *p ~= mask; unlock(..); so "having a full barrier before test_and_set_bit()" may not be the exact thing we need here, as long as a test_and_set_bit() can sync with a clear_bit() uncondiontally, then the world is safe. For example, we can make test_and_set_bit() RELEASE, and clear_bit() ACQUIRE on ARM64: test_and_set_bit(): atomic_long_fetch_or_release(..); // pair with clear_bit() // guarantee everything is // observed. clear_bit(): atomic_long_fetch_andnot_acquire(..); , maybe that's somewhat cheaper than a full barrier implementation. Thoughts? Just to find the exact ordering requirement for bitops. Regards, Boqun > So it looks to me like we need to: > > 1. Upgrade test_and_{set,clear}_bit() to have a full memory barrier > regardless of the value which is read from memory. The lock/unlock > flavours can remain as-is. > > 2. Fix the documentation > > 3. Figure out what to do about architectures building atomics out of > spinlocks (probably ok as lock+unlock == full barrier there?) > > 4. Accept my sincerest apologies for the mess! > > > IOW, the proper fix for this should, I think, look something like this > > (whitespace mangled) thing: > > > > --- a/include/asm-generic/bitops/atomic.h > > +++ b/include/asm-generic/bitops/atomic.h > > @@ -39,9 +39,6 @@ arch_test_and_set_bit( > > unsigned long mask = BIT_MASK(nr); > > > > p += BIT_WORD(nr); > > - if (READ_ONCE(*p) & mask) > > - return 1; > > - > > old = arch_atomic_long_fetch_or(mask, (atomic_long_t *)p); > > return !!(old & mask); > > } > > @@ -53,9 +50,6 @@ arch_test_and_clear_bit > > unsigned long mask = BIT_MASK(nr); > > > > p += BIT_WORD(nr); > > - if (!(READ_ONCE(*p) & mask)) > > - return 0; > > - > > old = arch_atomic_long_fetch_andnot(mask, (atomic_long_t *)p); > > return !!(old & mask); > > } > > > > but the above is not just whitespace-damaged, it's entirely untested > > and based purely on me looking at that code. > > Yes, I think that's step 1, thanks! I'm a bit worried about the perf > numbers on the other thread, but we can get to the bottom of that > separately. > > Will