On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 09:39:06PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote: > > On Dec 20, 2020, at 9:25 PM, Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > >> On Dec 20, 2020, at 9:12 PM, Yu Zhao <yuzhao@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> > >> On Sun, Dec 20, 2020 at 08:36:15PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote: > >>>> On Dec 19, 2020, at 6:20 PM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2020 at 02:06:02PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote: > >>>>>> On Dec 19, 2020, at 1:34 PM, Nadav Amit <nadav.amit@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> [ cc’ing some more people who have experience with similar problems ] > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2020, at 11:15 AM, Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 08:30:06PM -0800, Nadav Amit wrote: > >>>>>>>> Analyzing this problem indicates that there is a real bug since > >>>>>>>> mmap_lock is only taken for read in mwriteprotect_range(). This might > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Never having to take the mmap_sem for writing, and in turn never > >>>>>>> blocking, in order to modify the pagetables is quite an important > >>>>>>> feature in uffd that justifies uffd instead of mprotect. It's not the > >>>>>>> most important reason to use uffd, but it'd be nice if that guarantee > >>>>>>> would remain also for the UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT API, not only for the > >>>>>>> other pgtable manipulations. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Consider the following scenario with 3 CPUs (cpu2 is not shown): > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> cpu0 cpu1 > >>>>>>>> ---- ---- > >>>>>>>> userfaultfd_writeprotect() > >>>>>>>> [ write-protecting ] > >>>>>>>> mwriteprotect_range() > >>>>>>>> mmap_read_lock() > >>>>>>>> change_protection() > >>>>>>>> change_protection_range() > >>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>> change_pte_range() > >>>>>>>> [ defer TLB flushes] > >>>>>>>> userfaultfd_writeprotect() > >>>>>>>> mmap_read_lock() > >>>>>>>> change_protection() > >>>>>>>> [ write-unprotect ] > >>>>>>>> ... > >>>>>>>> [ unprotect PTE logically ] > >>>> > >>>> Is the uffd selftest failing with upstream or after your kernel > >>>> modification that removes the tlb flush from unprotect? > >>> > >>> Please see my reply to Yu. I was wrong in this analysis, and I sent a > >>> correction to my analysis. The problem actually happens when > >>> userfaultfd_writeprotect() unprotects the memory. > >>> > >>>> } else if (uffd_wp_resolve) { > >>>> /* > >>>> * Leave the write bit to be handled > >>>> * by PF interrupt handler, then > >>>> * things like COW could be properly > >>>> * handled. > >>>> */ > >>>> ptent = pte_clear_uffd_wp(ptent); > >>>> } > >>>> > >>>> Upstraem this will still do pages++, there's a tlb flush before > >>>> change_protection can return here, so I'm confused. > >>> > >>> You are correct. The problem I encountered with userfaultfd_writeprotect() > >>> is during unprotecting path. > >>> > >>> Having said that, I think that there are additional scenarios that are > >>> problematic. Consider for instance madvise_dontneed_free() that is racing > >>> with userfaultfd_writeprotect(). If madvise_dontneed_free() completed > >>> removing the PTEs, but still did not flush, change_pte_range() will see > >>> non-present PTEs, say a flush is not needed, and then > >>> change_protection_range() will not do a flush, and return while > >>> the memory is still not protected. > >>> > >>>> I don't share your concern. What matters is the PT lock, so it > >>>> wouldn't be one per pte, but a least an order 9 higher, but let's > >>>> assume one flush per pte. > >>>> > >>>> It's either huge mapping and then it's likely running without other > >>>> tlb flushing in background (postcopy snapshotting), or it's a granular > >>>> protect with distributed shared memory in which case the number of > >>>> changd ptes or huge_pmds tends to be always 1 anyway. So it doesn't > >>>> matter if it's deferred. > >>>> > >>>> I agree it may require a larger tlb flush review not just mprotect > >>>> though, but it didn't sound particularly complex. Note the > >>>> UFFDIO_WRITEPROTECT is still relatively recent so backports won't > >>>> risk to reject so heavy as to require a band-aid. > >>>> > >>>> My second thought is, I don't see exactly the bug and it's not clear > >>>> if it's upstream reproducing this, but assuming this happens on > >>>> upstream, even ignoring everything else happening in the tlb flush > >>>> code, this sounds like purely introduced by userfaultfd_writeprotect() > >>>> vs userfaultfd_writeprotect() (since it's the only place changing > >>>> protection with mmap_sem for reading and note we already unmap and > >>>> flush tlb with mmap_sem for reading in MADV_DONTNEED/MADV_FREE clears > >>>> the dirty bit etc..). Flushing tlbs with mmap_sem for reading is > >>>> nothing new, the only new thing is the flush after wrprotect. > >>>> > >>>> So instead of altering any tlb flush code, would it be possible to > >>>> just stick to mmap_lock for reading and then serialize > >>>> userfaultfd_writeprotect() against itself with an additional > >>>> mm->mmap_wprotect_lock mutex? That'd be a very local change to > >>>> userfaultfd too. > >>>> > >>>> Can you look if the rule mmap_sem for reading plus a new > >>>> mm->mmap_wprotect_lock mutex or the mmap_sem for writing, whenever > >>>> wrprotecting ptes, is enough to comply with the current tlb flushing > >>>> code, so not to require any change non local to uffd (modulo the > >>>> additional mutex). > >>> > >>> So I did not fully understand your solution, but I took your point and > >>> looked again on similar cases. To be fair, despite my experience with these > >>> deferred TLB flushes as well as Peter Zijlstra’s great documentation, I keep > >>> getting confused (e.g., can’t we somehow combine tlb_flush_batched and > >>> tlb_flush_pending ?) > >>> > >>> As I said before, my initial scenario was wrong, and the problem is not > >>> userfaultfd_writeprotect() racing against itself. This one seems actually > >>> benign to me. > >>> > >>> Nevertheless, I do think there is a problem in change_protection_range(). > >>> Specifically, see the aforementioned scenario of a race between > >>> madvise_dontneed_free() and userfaultfd_writeprotect(). > >>> > >>> So an immediate solution for such a case can be resolve without holding > >>> mmap_lock for write, by just adding a test for mm_tlb_flush_nested() in > >>> change_protection_range(): > >>> > >>> /* > >>> * Only flush the TLB if we actually modified any entries > >>> * or if there are pending TLB flushes. > >>> */ > >>> if (pages || mm_tlb_flush_nested(mm)) > >>> flush_tlb_range(vma, start, end); > >>> > >>> To be fair, I am not confident I did not miss other problematic cases. > >>> > >>> But for now, this change, with the preserve_write change should address the > >>> immediate issues. Let me know if you agree. > >>> > >>> Let me know whether you agree. > >> > >> The problem starts in UFD, and is related to tlb flush. But its focal > >> point is in do_wp_page(). I'd suggest you look at function and see > >> what it does before and after the commits I listed, with the following > >> conditions > >> > >> PageAnon(), !PageKsm(), !PageSwapCache(), !pte_write(), > >> page_mapcount() = 1, page_count() > 1 or PageLocked() > >> > >> when it runs against the two UFD examples you listed. > > > > Thanks for your quick response. I wanted to write a lengthy response, but I > > do want to sleep on it. I presume page_count() > 1, since I have multiple > > concurrent page-faults on the same address in my test, but I will check. > > > > Anyhow, before I give a further response, I was just wondering - since you > > recently dealt with soft-dirty issue as I remember - isn't this problematic > > COW for non-COW page scenario, in which the copy races with writes to a page > > which is protected in the PTE but not in all TLB, also problematic for > > soft-dirty clearing? Yes, it has the same problem. > Stupid me. You hold mmap_lock for write, so no, it cannot happen when clear > soft-dirty. mmap_write_lock is temporarily held to update vm_page_prot for write notifications. It doesn't help in the context of this problem.