Re: [PATCH] mmc: sdhci-pci-gli: Set SDR104's clock to 205MHz and enable SSC for GL975x

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Hi Greg,

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 9:17 AM Ben Chuang <benchuanggli@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> Hi, Greg,
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 7:37 PM Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 06:42:06PM +0800, Ben Chuang wrote:
> > > Hi Greg,
> > >
> > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 4:10 PM Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Oct 14, 2020 at 04:00:49PM +0800, Ben Chuang wrote:
> > > > > Hi Greg,
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 9:48 PM Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 07:11:13PM +0800, Ben Chuang wrote:
> > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 4:57 PM Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 04:33:38PM +0800, Ben Chuang wrote:
> > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 4:00 PM Greg KH <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Oct 13, 2020 at 03:46:00PM +0800, Ben Chuang wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > From: Ben Chuang <ben.chuang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > commit 786d33c887e15061ff95942db68fe5c6ca98e5fc upstream.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Set SDR104's clock to 205MHz and enable SSC for GL9750 and GL9755
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Ben Chuang <ben.chuang@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > > Link: https://lore.kernel.org/r/20200717033350.13006-1-benchuanggli@xxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > > > > > Signed-off-by: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > > Cc: <stable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> # 5.4.x
> > > > > > > > > > > ---
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi Greg and Sasha,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The patch is to improve the EMI of the hardware.
> > > > > > > > > > > So it should be also required for some hardware devices using the v5.4.
> > > > > > > > > > > Please tell me if have other questions.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > This looks like a "add support for new hardware" type of patch, right?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No, this is for a mass production hardware.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That does not make sense, sorry.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Is this a bug that is being fixed, did the hardware work properly before
> > > > > > > > 5.4 and now it does not?  Or has it never worked properly and 5.9 is the
> > > > > > > > first kernel that it now works on?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It seems there is misunderstanding regarding “hardware” means.
> > > > > > > I originally thought that the "hardware" refers to GL975x chips.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This Genesys patch is to fix the EMI problem for GL975x controller on a system.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Did it work on the 4.19 kernel?  Another older kernel?  Or is 5.9 the
> > > > > > first kernel release where it works?
> > > > >
> > > > > The patch works on after v5.4.
> > > >
> > > > You are not answering the question I am trying to ask.
> > > >
> > > > My question is:
> > > >         Did this hardware ever work properly before the 5.9 kernel
> > > >         release.
> > >
> > > Yes.
> >
> > It did?  What kernel release from kernel.org did it work, and what
> > kernel release did it break on?
>
> Sorry, I don't know if  "this Hardware" refers to a single GL975x
> controller or the whole system.
> "Yes", for those existing systems built in GL975x controller. These
> systems are no EMI issue on v5.4~v5.9.
>
> "No", for some systems with developing stage build in GL975x
> controller because there may be an EMI issue.
> For those systems, they need the v5.9 to pass the EMI test.
>
> >
> > > > > > In other words, is this fixing a regression, or just enabling hardware
> > > > > > support for something that has never worked before for this hardware?
> > > > >
> > > > > This patch is to reduce the EMI at SDR104 mode for GL975x.
> > > > > It changes the preset frequency of SDR104 to 205Mhz and sets the SSC value.
> > > > > So I think it is fixing a regression.
> > > >
> > > > A regression is when an older kernel works fine, but a newer kernel does
> > > > not.  When that happens, you can point to a specific commit and say,
> > > > "this commit here broke this previously working hardware".
> > > >
> > > > Is that the case here?  If not, this is not a regression.
> > >
> > > With this definition, no.
> >
> > Wait, I do not understand, this is the exact oposite of what you said
> > above.
> >
> > Which is true?
>
> These existing systems built with GL975x have no EMI problems.
> The patch can reduce the impact of EMI, so these existing systems are still ok.
>
> For these existing systems, on an older kernel (v5.4) they work fine
> (no EMI issue), on a newer kernel (v5.9) they work fine (no EMI
> issue).
> For those developing systems, on an older kernel (v5.4) they don't
> work fine (EMI issue), on a newer kernel (v5.9) they work fine(no EMI
> issue).
>

Sorry, I forgot to consider some existing machines with pre-installed windows.
These machines fit the definition of regression.
They will have EMI issue when v5.4 is installed on them.

Best regards,
Ben

> >
> > totally confused,
>
> If you are still confused, please let me know. :).
>
> Best regards,
> Ben
>
> >
> > greg k-h




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