On Fri, Aug 28, 2020 at 1:26 AM Kees Cook <keescook@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 27, 2020 at 11:05:42PM +0300, Andy Shevchenko wrote: > > In general it's better to have a robust API, but what may go wrong > > with the interface where we have no length of the buffer passed, but > > we all know that it's PAGE_SIZE? > > So, what's wrong with doing something like > > strcpy(buf, "Yes, we know we won't overflow here\n"); > > (There's a whole thread[1] about this right now, actually.) > > The problem isn't the uses where it's safe (obviously), it's about the > uses where it is NOT safe. (Or _looks_ safe but isn't.) In order to > eliminate bug classes, we need remove the APIs that are foot-guns. Even > if one developer never gets it wrong, others might. > > [1] https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/c256eba42a564c01a8e470320475d46f@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx/T/#mac95487d7ae427de03251b49b75dd4de40c2462d Seems to me that this is a fixation on an abstract problem that never exists (of course, if a developer has brains to think). -- With Best Regards, Andy Shevchenko