On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 8:44 AM Marc Plumb <lkml.mplumb@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I thought net_rand_state was assumed to be insecure and that anyone > could determine the internal state. Isn't this Working as Designed? I was working as designed - because it wasn't really designed to be "real crypto" - but sadly it's also the only thing that is fast enough for a lot of networking. So it may be _designed_ to be "not real crypto" and to have a discoverable internal state. But once again, reality interferes, and it turns out that people really want something very very fast that is also not deterministic enough to be discoverable at least remotely. The stuff that is actually designed and intended to be a complete black box is sadly also much too slow. By about an order of magnitude. Linus