From: Chris Wilson > Sent: 10 March 2020 11:50 > > Quoting David Laight (2020-03-10 11:36:41) > > From: Chris Wilson > > > Sent: 10 March 2020 09:21 > > > Instruct the compiler to read the next element in the list iteration > > > once, and that it is not allowed to reload the value from the stale > > > element later. This is important as during the course of the safe > > > iteration, the stale element may be poisoned (unbeknownst to the > > > compiler). > > > > Eh? > > I thought any function call will stop the compiler being allowed > > to reload the value. > > The 'safe' loop iterators are only 'safe' against called > > code removing the current item from the list. > > > > > This helps prevent kcsan warnings over 'unsafe' conduct in releasing the > > > list elements during list_for_each_entry_safe() and friends. > > > > Sounds like kcsan is buggy ???? > > The warning kcsan gave made sense (a strange case where the emptying the > list from inside the safe iterator would allow that list to be taken > under a global mutex and have one extra request added to it. The > list_for_each_entry_safe() should be ok in this scenario, so long as the > next element is read before this element is dropped, and the compiler is > instructed not to reload the element. Normally the loop iteration code has to hold the mutex. I guess it can be released inside the loop provided no other code can ever delete entries. > kcsan is a little more insistent on having that annotation :) > > In this instance I would say it was a false positive from kcsan, but I > can see why it would complain and suspect that given a sufficiently > aggressive compiler, we may be caught out by a late reload of the next > element. If you have: for (; p; p = next) { next = p->next; external_function_call(void); } the compiler must assume that the function call can change 'p->next' and read it before the call. Is this a list with strange locking rules? The only deletes are from within the loop. Adds and deletes are locked. The list traversal isn't locked. I suspect kcsan bleats because it doesn't assume the compiler will use a single instruction/memory operation to read p->next. That is just stupid. David - Registered Address Lakeside, Bramley Road, Mount Farm, Milton Keynes, MK1 1PT, UK Registration No: 1397386 (Wales)