On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 05:41:01PM +0100, Torsten Duwe wrote: > On Mon, Nov 18, 2019 at 12:46:54PM +0000, Mark Brown wrote: > > This is not new behaviour, all this change did was delay this. We've > > been powering off unused regulators for a bit over a decade. > For me, this appeared first after upgrading from from 5.3.0-rc1 to 5.4.0-rc6. > I guess the late initcall was executed before the regulator driver module got > loaded? And now, with the 30s delay, the regulator driver is finally there? > Would that explain it? If the regulator driver wasn't loaded you'd not see the power off on late init, yes. > > We power off regulators which aren't enabled by any driver and where we > > have permission from the constraints to change the state. If the > > regulator can't be powered off then it should be flagged as always-on in > > constraints, if a driver needs it the driver should be enabling the > > regulator. > How exactly? I have been looking for deficiencies in the driver, but found > devm_regulator_get() should actually do the right thing (use_count++). Is > that correct, or am I missing something? Regulators are enabled using the regulator_enable() call, if a driver hasn't called that and isn't for something like cpufreq where the regulator is expected to be always on then it should expect that power may be removed at any time, even if the core didn't do this another consumer sharing the supply could do the same. It's perfectly possible and normal for a driver to enable and disable a regulator at runtime, for example for power saving. > > I don't folow what you're saying about probe deferral here at all, > > sorry. > I was worried about the regulator core handing out refs to the dummy > regulator when the requesting driver wants to change the voltages next. I don't follow at all, if a driver is calling regulator_get() and regulator_put() repeatedly at runtime around voltage changes then it sounds like the driver is extremely broken. Further, if a supply has a regulator provided in device tree then a dummy regulator will never be provided for it. > I concluded the requesting device driver would have to wait until the real > regulator driver was registered. But either this somehow works or my eDP > bridge is still powered on correctly from U-Boot. What does the warning > "... using dummy regulator" mean for the caller of regulator_get()? > AFAICS the caller is then stuck with a reference to the dummy, correct? If a dummy regulator has been provided then there is no possibility that a real supply could be provided, there's not a firmware description of one. We use a dummy regulator to keep software working on the basis that it's unlikely that the device can operate without power but lacking any information on the regulator we can't actually control it.
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