On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 08:16:57PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote: > On Wed 13-11-19 17:08:29, Roman Gushchin wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 05:29:34PM +0100, Michal Koutný wrote: > > > Hi. > > > > > > On Wed, Nov 06, 2019 at 02:51:30PM -0800, Roman Gushchin <guro@xxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Let's fix it by switching from css_tryget_online() to css_tryget(). > > > Is this a safe thing to do? The stack captures a kmem charge path, with > > > css_tryget() it may happen it gets an offlined memcg and carry out > > > charge into it. What happens when e.g. memcg_deactivate_kmem_caches is > > > skipped as a consequence? > > > > The thing here is that css_tryget_online() cannot pin the online state, > > so even if returned true, the cgroup can be offline at the return from > > the function. So if we rely somewhere on it, it's already broken. > > Then what is the point of this function and what about all other users? > > > Generally speaking, it's better to reduce it's usage to the bare minimum. > > If it doesn't have any sensible semantic then I would argue it should go > altogether otherwise we are going to chase new users again and aagain? That's the plan: to audit all use cases and get rid of it where it's possible. > > > > > The problem is caused by an exiting task which is associated with > > > > an offline memcg. We're iterating over and over in the > > > > do {} while (!css_tryget_online()) loop, but obviously the memcg won't > > > > become online and the exiting task won't be migrated to a live memcg. > > > As discussed in other replies, the task is not yet exiting. However, the > > > access to memcg isn't through `current` but `mm->owner`, i.e. another > > > task of a threadgroup may have got stuck in an offlined memcg (I don't > > > have a good explanation for that though). > > The trace however points to current->mm or current->active_memcg. Is it > possible that we have a stale active_memcg? It wouldn't cause a rcu stall. Thanks!