On Thu 2019-10-03 21:56:34, Will Deacon wrote: > Hi Kees, > > On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 01:58:46PM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 02, 2019 at 01:35:38PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > > > Calling 'panic()' on a kernel with CONFIG_PREEMPT=y can leave the > > > calling CPU in an infinite loop, but with interrupts and preemption > > > enabled. From this state, userspace can continue to be scheduled, > > > despite the system being "dead" as far as the kernel is concerned. This > > > is easily reproducible on arm64 when booting with "nosmp" on the command > > > line; a couple of shell scripts print out a periodic "Ping" message > > > whilst another triggers a crash by writing to /proc/sysrq-trigger: > > > > > > | sysrq: Trigger a crash > > > | Kernel panic - not syncing: sysrq triggered crash > > > | CPU: 0 PID: 1 Comm: init Not tainted 5.2.15 #1 > > > | Hardware name: linux,dummy-virt (DT) > > > | Call trace: > > > | dump_backtrace+0x0/0x148 > > > | show_stack+0x14/0x20 > > > | dump_stack+0xa0/0xc4 > > > | panic+0x140/0x32c > > > | sysrq_handle_reboot+0x0/0x20 > > > | __handle_sysrq+0x124/0x190 > > > | write_sysrq_trigger+0x64/0x88 > > > | proc_reg_write+0x60/0xa8 > > > | __vfs_write+0x18/0x40 > > > | vfs_write+0xa4/0x1b8 > > > | ksys_write+0x64/0xf0 > > > | __arm64_sys_write+0x14/0x20 > > > | el0_svc_common.constprop.0+0xb0/0x168 > > > | el0_svc_handler+0x28/0x78 > > > | el0_svc+0x8/0xc > > > | Kernel Offset: disabled > > > | CPU features: 0x0002,24002004 > > > | Memory Limit: none > > > | ---[ end Kernel panic - not syncing: sysrq triggered crash ]--- > > > | Ping 2! > > > | Ping 1! > > > | Ping 1! > > > | Ping 2! > > > > > > The issue can also be triggered on x86 kernels if CONFIG_SMP=n, otherwise > > > local interrupts are disabled in 'smp_send_stop()'. > > > > > > Disable preemption in 'panic()' before re-enabling interrupts. > > > > Is this perhaps the correct solution for what commit c39ea0b9dd24 ("panic: > > avoid the extra noise dmesg") was trying to fix? > > Hmm, maybe, although that looks like it's focussed more on irq handling > than preemption. Exactly, the backtrace mentioned in commit c39ea0b9dd24 ("panic: avoid the extra noise dmesg") is printed by wake_up() called from wake_up_klogd_work_func(). It is irq_work. Therefore disabling preemption would not prevent this. > I've deliberately left the irq part alone, since I think > having magic sysrq work via the keyboard interrupt is desirable from the > panic loop. I agree that we should keep sysrq working. One pity thing is that led_panic_blink() in leds/drivers/trigger/ledtrig-panic.c uses workqueues: + led_panic_blink() + led_trigger_event() + led_set_brightness() + schedule_work() It means that it depends on the scheduler. I guess that it does not work in many panic situations. But this patch will always block it. I agree that it is strange that userspace still works at this stage. But does it cause any real problems? Best Regards, Petr