On Tue, Feb 12, 2019 at 09:45:53AM -0800, Vineet Gupta wrote: > +CC some folks interested in alignment stuff in the past. > > On 2/12/19 9:30 AM, David Laight wrote: > > From: Vineet Gupta > >> Sent: 12 February 2019 17:17 > >> > >> On 2/8/19 2:55 AM, Alexey Brodkin wrote: > >>> By default ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN is defined in "include/linux/slab.h" as > >>> "__alignof__(unsigned long long)" which looks fine but not for ARC. > >> > >> Just for the record, the issue happens because a LLOCKD (exclusive 64-bit load) > >> was trying to use a 32-bit aligned effective address (for atomic64_t), not allowed > >> by ISA (LLOCKD can only take 64-bit aligned address, even when the CPU has > >> unaligned access enabled). > >> > >> This in turn was happening because this word is embedded in some other struct and > >> happens to be 4 byte aligned > >> > >> > >>> ARC tools ABI sets align of "long long" the same as for "long" = 4 > >>> instead of 8 one may think of. > > > > Right, but __alignof__() doesn't have to return the alignment that would > > be used for a data item of the specified type. > > (Read the gcc 'bug' info for gory details.) > > > > On i386 __alignof__(long long) is 8, but structure members of type 'long long' > > are 4 byte aligned and the alignment of a structure with a 'long long' member > > is only 4. > > (Although the microsoft compiler returns 4.) > > Exactly my point that this fudging of outer alignment is no magic bullet. IMO (and yes I knew about that i386 thing) this is just plain wrong. Of course we'll have to live with that crap, but that doesn't make it less crap. > >> Right, this was indeed unexpected and not like most other arches. ARCv2 ISA allows > >> regular 64-bit loads/stores (LDD/STD) to take 32-bit aligned addresses. Thus ABI > >> relaxing the alignment for 64-bit data potentially causes more packing and less > >> space waste. But on the flip side we need to waste space at arbitrary places liek > >> this. > >> > >> So this is all good and theory, but I'm not 100% sure how slab alignment helps > >> here (and is future proof). So the outer struct with embedded atomic64_t was > >> allocated via slab and your patch ensures that outer struct is 64-bit aligned ? > > > > Presumable 'atomic64_t' has an alignment attribute to force 8 byte alignment. > > It does for ARC > > typedef struct { > aligned_u64 counter; > } atomic64_t; Note that atomic*_t is signed; also note that it doesn't matter in practise because -fno-strict-overflow. Personally I think u64 and company should already force natural alignment; but alas. I though that was part of the reason we have __u64 and co., so that ABI is invariant to kernel alignment changes. > >> But how does that guarantee that all embedded atomic64_t in there will be 64-bit > >> aligned (in future say) in the light of ARC ABI and the gcc bug/feature which > >> Peter alluded to > >> > >> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54188 > >> https://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=10360 I strongly agree with all those that say __alignof__ is broken and argue for the C11 _Alignof/alignof semantics. In particular I think that: T x; struct foo { T x; }; alignof(x) == alignof(foo::x) And: Aggregates (structures and arrays) and unions assume the alignment of their most strictly aligned component. Otherwise none of this is remotely usable. > >>> Thus slab allocator may easily allocate a buffer which is 32-bit aligned. > >>> And most of the time it's OK until we start dealing with 64-bit atomics > >>> with special LLOCKD/SCONDD instructions which (as opposed to their 32-bit > >>> counterparts LLOCK/SCOND) operate with full 64-bit words but those words > >>> must be 64-bit aligned. > >> > >> Some of this text needed to go above to give more context. > > > > I suspect the slab allocator should be returning 8 byte aligned addresses > > on all systems.... > > why ? As I understand it is still not fool proof against the expected alignment of > inner members. There ought to be a better way to enforce all this. I agree that for ARC ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN should be at least 8. In the past I've proposed a GCC plugin / checker that would verify the alignment requirements against the various allocators. For instance: struct foo { spinlock_t a; int b; } __cacheline_aligned; struct foo *my_foo = kmalloc(sizeof(struct foo), GFP_KERNEL); would result in a warning; because obviously kmalloc (as per ARCH_SLAB_MINALIGN) doesn't respect the cacheline alignment of the type. Of course; it appears our kmalloc() function definition doesn't even have a __malloc attribute, so there's plenty work to be done here.