Re: [PATCH] [linux-4.4.y only] HV: properly delay KVP packets when negotiation is in progress

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> But, I really want to know why people are still trying to use the 4.4
> kernel right now for a "general purpose" system.  They should be using
> 4.9 at the very least by now, 4.4 is not a good idea at all.  Why can
> you not just move your users to 4.9 instead of a newer 4.4 kernel?  It
> should be the exact same, right?
> greg k-h

Sorry about this.
Maybe you don't believe this, we are just upgrading to 4.4 kernel from
3.2. I can do nothing for this....
But certainly, we are not a completely "general purpose" Linux.
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 6:40 AM Dexuan Cui <decui@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > From: 'gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx' <gregkh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 06:55
> > > ...
> > > This is to say, we're requesting a backport of 4 patches or 28 patches.
> > > If 28 patches seem too many, we hope at least the 4 patches can be
> > backported.
> >
> > 28 seems odd, there's lots of things in there that you do not need.
> Yes, some of the 28 patches are completely unnecessary for a "stable" kernel,
> but some are fixes for other known issues. Only backporting the minimal
> amount of the patches can't work due to merge conflicts, so I generated
> the 28-patch list which can be applied cleanly in order.
>
> > So 4 is good, can you send all 4 as a patch series, properly backported
> > and tested with this patch as the last one?
> I'm OK with only backporting the 4 patches for this particular issue
> reported by Wang Jian. Maybe we can backport more fixes in future
> if people report new KVP issues against the 4.4 kernel.
>
> So I'm going to send all the 4 patches as a patch series. Wang Jian
> has tested them.
>
> > But, I really want to know why people are still trying to use the 4.4
> > kernel right now for a "general purpose" system.  They should be using
> > 4.9 at the very least by now, 4.4 is not a good idea at all.  Why can
> > you not just move your users to 4.9 instead of a newer 4.4 kernel?  It
> > should be the exact same, right?
> > greg k-h
>
> We definitely encourage users to use new kernels like 4.9 and 4.1x, but it
> looks some users have to use their customized 4.4 kernels due to some
> reason I don't know (believe it or not, except Wang Jian, I have made
> the same private backport twice for two companies since July).
>
> And Ubuntu 16.04.5 LTS (http://releases.ubuntu.com/16.04/), which is
> based on v4.4, also has the same KVP bug:
> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git/ubuntu/ubuntu-xenial.git/tree/Makefile?h=Ubuntu-4.4.0-137.163
> And I did receive a bug report from a Ubuntu user last week.
>
> Ubuntu 16.04 will reach End-of-Life on April 2021 -- still 2.5 years left
> since now. So I hope after the 4 patches are merged into the upstream
> 4.4.y branch, the Ubuntu guys will notice them and pick them up.
>
> Thanks,
> -- Dexuan
>


-- 
Regards,
Wang Jian



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