On Fri, 16 Dec 2016, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > On Tue, 13 Dec 2016, Thomas Gleixner wrote: > > Roland reported that his DELL T5810 sports a value add BIOS which > > completely wreckages the TSC. The squirmware [(TM) Ingo Molnar] boots with > > random negative TSC_ADJUST values, different on all CPUs. That renders the > > TSC useless because the sycnchronization check fails. > > While everyone assumed that this is the usual DELL squirmware problem, I > have to say it's not. > > Just got my hands on a Skylake based Lenovo S510 box and it shows the same > feature: > > TSC ADJUST: CPU0: -10123656703215 > CPU1: -10123656796701 > CPU2: -10123656797460 > CPU3: -10123656798366 > > Which causes the TSC to be out of sync on a stock upstream kernel and the > TSC deadline timer wreckage is happening on that machine as well. > > I'm pretty sure, that this well thought out feature to 'hide power on time' > from TSC has not been independently 'invented' by DELL and Lenovo BIOS > tinkerers. > > I rather have the impression that this is an advisory or feature kit from > some other entity. Whoever came up with this misfeature at Intel and/or > Microsoft (sorry, I could not come up with any other suspects) should be > promoted to run the 'Linux on feature-plagued systems' hot line. Just to add another data point here. On cold boot the TSC_ADJUST value on that LENOVO machine is: -24534293, which is about 9ms. So assumed that the SDM is correct in this point and the counter starts at 0 after power on, then 9ms later might be right in that magic blob which does the low level bringup of CPUs. That comes from the CPU vendor and runs _BEFORE_ the system vendor BIOS can create havoc. Dealing with timers on x86 feels like a Sisyphean task. Thanks, tglx -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe stable" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html