On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 20:34 -0700, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote: > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 10:57:46PM -0400, John W. Linville wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 11, 2013 at 08:50:23PM -0400, Theodore Ts'o wrote: > > > > > In any case, I've been very conservative in _not_ pushing bug fixes to > > > Linus after -rc3 (unless they are fixing a regression or the bug fix > > > is super-serious); I'd much rather have them cook in the ext4 tree > > > where they can get a lot more testing (a full regression test run for > > > ext4 takes over 24 hours), and for people trying out linux-next. > > > > > > Maybe the pendulum has swung too far in the direction of holding back > > > changes and trying to avoid the risk of introducing regressions; > > > perhaps this would be a good topic to discuss at the Kernel Summit. > > > > Yes, there does seem to be a certain ebb and flow as to how strict > > the rules are about what should go into stable, what fixes are "good > > enough" for a given -rc, how tight those rule are in -rc2 vs in -rc6, > > etc. If nothing else, a good repetitive flogging and a restatement of > > the One True Way to handle these things might be worthwhile once again... > > The rules are documented in stable_kernel_rules.txt for what I will > accept. > > I have been beating on maintainers for 8 years now to actually mark > patches for stable, and only this past year have I finally seen people > do it (we FINALLY got SCSI patches marked for stable in this merge > window!!!) What do you mean FINALLY? There've been SCSI patches marked for stable in every other merge window as well. The whole reason I ran the stable patch tracker before you took it over was so I could get the Cc: to stable stuff working. James > So now that maintainers are finally realizing that they need > to mark patches, I'll be pushing back harder on the patches that they do > submit, because the distros are rightfully pushing back on me for > accepting things that are outside of the stable_kernel_rules.txt > guidelines. > > If you look on the stable@vger list, I've already rejected 3 today and > asked about the huge 21 powerpc patches. Sure, it's not a lot, when > staring down 174 more to go, but it's a start... > > greg k-h > _______________________________________________ > Ksummit-2013-discuss mailing list > Ksummit-2013-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/ksummit-2013-discuss -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe stable" in the body of a message to majordomo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html