On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 19:26 +0800, Xie XiuQi wrote:
> On 2013/7/1 15:36, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> > On Mon, 2013-07-01 at 14:45 +0800, Xie XiuQi wrote:
> >> We setting clock_skip_update = 1 based on the assumption that the
> >> next call to update_rq_clock() will come nearly immediately
> >> after being set. However, it is not always true especially on
> >> non-preempt mode. In this case we may miss some clock update, which
> >> would cause an error curr->sum_exec_runtime account.
> >>
> >> The test result show that test_kthread's exec_runtime has been
> >> added to watchdog.
> >>
> >> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ P COMMAND
> >> 28 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 100 0.0 0:05.39 5 watchdog/5
> >> 7 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 95 0.0 0:05.83 0 watchdog/0
> >> 12 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 94 0.0 0:05.79 1 watchdog/1
> >> 16 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 92 0.0 0:05.74 2 watchdog/2
> >> 20 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 91 0.0 0:05.71 3 watchdog/3
> >> 24 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 82 0.0 0:05.42 4 watchdog/4
> >> 32 root RT 0 0 0 0 S 79 0.0 0:05.35 6 watchdog/6
> >> 5200 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 21 0.0 0:08.88 6 test_kthread/6
> >> 5194 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 20 0.0 0:08.41 0 test_kthread/0
> >> 5195 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 20 0.0 0:08.44 1 test_kthread/1
> >> 5196 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 20 0.0 0:08.49 2 test_kthread/2
> >> 5197 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 20 0.0 0:08.53 3 test_kthread/3
> >> 5198 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 19 0.0 0:08.81 4 test_kthread/4
> >> 5199 root 20 0 0 0 0 R 2 0.0 0:08.66 5 test_kthread/5
> >>
> >> "test_kthread/i" is a kernel thread which has a infinity loop and it calls
> >> schedule() every 1s. It's main process as below:
> >
> > It'd be a shame to lose the cycle savings (we could use more) due to
> > such horrible behavior. Where are you seeing this in real life?
> >
>
> Thank you for your comments, Mike.
>
> This issue was reported by a driver related pcie in which a kthread send
> huge amounts of data. In non-preempt mode, it would take a cpu for a long
> time. But, in preempt mode, I haven't found this issue yet.
>
> Here is the kthread main logic. Although it's not a good idea, but it does
> exist:
> while (!kthread_should_stop()) {
> /* call schedule every 1 sec */
> if (HZ <= jiffies - last) {
> last = jiffies;
> schedule();
> }
>
> /* get data and sent it */
> get_msg();
> send_msg();
>
> if (kthread_should_stop())
> break;
> }
>
> > That said, accounting funnies induced by skipped update are possible,
> > which could trump the cycle savings I suppose, so maybe savings (sniff)
> > should just go away?
>
> Indeed, removing the skip_clock_update could resolve the issue, but I found
> there is no this issue in preempt mode. However, if remove skip_clock_update
> we'll get more precise time account.
>
> So, what's your opinion, Mike.
Other than take that thing out and shoot it? ;-)
It's definitely bad to hand off cycles expended to some other innocent
bystander, especially an rt task that can then trip over the throttle,
so in the safety first light, I'd say go with your fix I suppose, and
hope that other things like contention won't show up doing the same
thing. The cycle savings are nice to have, so I'd rather not just kill
that entirely, but...
Maybe Peter has a better idea.
-Mike
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