Re: Tune Squid proxy to handle 90k connection

[Andre Bolinhas <andre.bolinhas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi

To handle this amount of traffic should I enable client_persistent_connections and server_persistent_connections or is it better to keep it disable?

Best regards

On 31/01/2022 14:52, Eliezer Croitoru wrote:

Hey Andre,

 

I would not recommend on 5.x yet since there are couple bugs which are blocking it to be used as stable.

I believe that your current setup is pretty good.

The only thing which might affect the system is the authentication and ACLs.

As long these ACL rules are static it should not affect too much on the operation, however,
When adding external authentication and external helpers for other things it’s possible to see some slowdown in specific scenarios.

As long as the credentials and the ACLs will be fast enough it is expected to work fast but only testing will prove how the real world usage
will affect the service.

I believe that 5 workers is enough and also take into account that the external helpers would also require CPU so don’t rush into
changing the workers amount just yet.

 

All The Bests,

Eliezer

 

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From: André Bolinhas <andre.bolinhas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, January 31, 2022 15:47
To: 'NgTech LTD' <ngtech1ltd@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: 'Squid Users' <squid-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Tune Squid proxy to handle 90k connection

 

Hi

I will not use cache in this project.

Yes, I will need

• ACL (based on Domain, AD user, Headers, User Agent…)
• Authentication
• SSL bump just for one domain.
• DNS resolution (I will use Unbound DNS service for this)

 

Also, I will divide the traffic between two Squid box instead just one.

 

So each box will handle around 50k request.

 

Each box have:

• CPU(s) 16
• Threads per code 2
• Cores per socket 8
• Sockets 1
• Inter Xeron Silver 4208  @ 2.10GHz
• 96GB Ram
• 1TB raid-0 SSD

 

At this time I have 5 workers on each Squid box and the Squid version is 4.17, do you recommend more workers or upgrade the squid version to 5?

 

Best regards

 

De: NgTech LTD <ngtech1ltd@xxxxxxxxx>
Enviada: 31 de janeiro de 2022 04:59
Para: André Bolinhas <andre.bolinhas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Squid Users <squid-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Assunto: Re: Tune Squid proxy to handle 90k connection

 

I would recommend you to start with 0 caching.

However, for choosing the right solution you must give more details.

For example there is an IBM reasearch that prooved that for about 90k connections you can use vm's ontop of such hardware with apache web server.

If you do have the set of the other requirements from the proxy else then the 90k requests it would be wise to mention them.

 

Do you need any specific acls?

Do you need authentication?

etc..

 

For a simple forward proxy I would suggest to use a simpler solution and if possible to not log anything as a starter point.

Any local disk i/o will slow down the machine.

 

About the url categorization, I do not have experience with ufdbguard on such scale but it would be pretty heavy for any software to handle 90k rps...

 It's doable to implement such setup but will require testing.

Will you use ssl bump in this setup?

 

If I will have all the technical and specs/requirements details I might be able to suggest better then now.

Take into account that each squid worker can handle about 3k rps tops(with my experience) and it's a juggling between two sides so... 3k is really 3k+3k+external_acls+dns...

 

I believe that in this case an example of configuration from the squid developers might be usefull.

 

Eliezer

 

 

בתאריך יום ג׳, 25 בינו׳ 2022, 18:42, מאת André Bolinhas ‏<andre.bolinhas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:

Any tip about my last comment?

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De: André Bolinhas <andre.bolinhas@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Enviada: 21 de janeiro de 2022 16:36
Para: 'Amos Jeffries' <squid3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; squid-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Assunto: RE: Tune Squid proxy to handle 90k connection

Thanks Amos
Yes, you are right, I will put a second box with HaProxy in front to balance the traffic.
About the sockets I can't double it because is a physical machine, do you think disable hyperthreading from bios will help, because we have other services inside the box that works in multi-threading, like unbound DNS?

Just more a few questions:
1º The server have 92Gb of Ram, do you think that is needed that adding swap will help squid performance?
2º Right now we are using squid 4.17 did you recommend upgrade or downgrade to any specific version?
3º We need categorization, for this we are using an external helper to achieve it, do you recommend use this approach with ACL or move to some kind of ufdbguard service?

Best regards
-----Mensagem original-----
De: squid-users <squid-users-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Em Nome De Amos Jeffries
Enviada: 21 de janeiro de 2022 16:05
Para: squid-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Assunto: Re: Tune Squid proxy to handle 90k connection

Sorry for the slow reply. Responses inline.


On 14/01/22 05:44, André Bolinhas wrote:
> Hi
> ~80k request per second  10k users


Test this, but you may need a second machine to achieve the full 80k RPS.

Latest Squid do not have any details analysis, but older Squid-3.5 were only achieving >15k RPS under lab conditions, more likely expect under 10k RPS/worker on real traffic.
  That means (IME) this machine is quite likely to hit its capacity somewhere under 70k RPS.


> CPU info:
> CPU(s) 16
> Threads per code 2
> Cores per socket 8

With this CPU you will be able to run 7 workers. Setup affinity of one core per worker (the "kidN" processes of Squid). Leaving one core to the OS and additional processing needs - this matters at peak loading.

CPU "threads" tend not to be useful for Squid. Under high loads Squid workers will consume all available cycles on their core, not leaving any for the fancy "thread" core sharing features to pretend there is another core available. YMMV. One of the tests to try when tuning is to turn off the CPU hyperthreading and see what effect it has (if any).


> Sockets 1
> Inter Xeron Silver 4208  @ 2.10GHz
>

Okay. Doable, but for best performance you want as high GHz rating on the cores as your budget can afford. The amount of "lag" Squid adds to traffic and RPS performance/parallelism directly correlates with how fast the CPU core can run cycles.



HTH
Amos
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