-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 We are talking not about the differences between any *NIX-based or *NIX-like OS. Android just an example. I guess an observerd behaviour of redirector's processes is not expected. Now I've observed mentioned behaviour of redirectors over one month. I just want to know - is this desired behaviour or this is a bug. If this is bug - need to report it as bug. If this need, I'm ready to grant access to bare-metal installed Solaris system with Squid and squidGuard to tests for developers. If your one of them - you are welcome. 17.02.15 0:22, Eliezer Croitoru пишет: > Hey Yuri, > > I looked eventually at Solaris 11 man pages at: > http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E26502_01/html/E29030/ps-1.html#scrolltoc > > Just to be sure the next command would run: "ps -e" > > There is no subject to the discussion yet since the issue is yet to > be defined as an issue. > > You mentioned Android autoclose but you must first be clear from a > doubt! Android is indeed Linux kernel based and provides some APIs > for gui and other components of the system but it is much different > by nature. If you would take a simple PC from 10 years ago indeed > an Android device beats it's specs and will have much more ram and > CPU speed\power. Android however with all it's API would not allow > just any process handle "iptables" rules out of the box in any > form. Is there a reason for that? maybe yes and maybe not but I > mostly don't care about it since it's not being used mostly for > servers grade operations. > > I would definitely not want to call you stupid but sometimes even > I cannot catch\understand\hold others way of thinking. > > It's indeed not hard to execute pkill -9 "XYZ" but from my > experience any similar operation should not be considered as a > production action. In a case of bug that is being fixed\tested or a > software that is out of maintenance it might be the only solution > but yet is not recommended. > > Notice that any action you would do regarding this squidGuard > helpers will cost something like any other server simple > operation. > > Squid basically tries to take in account that to every operation > there is cost and the admin will prefer to run the server for more > then a period of 24\48 hours. I understand that there is memory > that is being used by squidGuard and I would not expect it to not > consume any memory at all. > > The next step are not common CS use practice: - The first step > before rushing to terminate squidGuard would be to check what is > the DB files size which squidGuard uses. - Then I would try to > estimate what RAM usage I would expect for this logic and for the > DB files. - At this point some would try to sacrifice some aspects > of performance compared to others due to what so ever reason. - > Others might try other directions.(I will take this "other" one.) > -- Consider what is more important between couple things: * System > ram or CPU utilization * System stability * System disk access > reduction * System network utilization * System ching ching (ie $$ > or other concurrency) costs -- Based on choosing one or more from > the options above and\or others that the human mind can take in > account, list them and make sure what the current issue in hands > hits and maybe by that costs or might cost money or sleep or fuel > or happiness or other important things that are considered to be a > loss and or a benefit. From this point on the solution in most of > the time is simpler then some might imagine. > > Now I think is the right place to stop the actual lookup for one > solution or other and simply understand the technical issue you see > and understand it. > > All The Bests, Eliezer > > * Waiting for the ps output. > > On 16/02/2015 18:55, Yuri Voinov wrote: >> root @ cthulhu / # ps -aux ps: unknown user x >> >> Really, I don't understand subject of discussion. >> >> I think, will good to have possibility to autoclose idle Squid >> redirectors after time specified. Regardless of the operating >> system. Like autoclose applications on Android. >> >> I want stupid thing? >> >> I'm not hard to execute through the cron pkill -9 squidGuard >> command every hour. But it is a crutch. Did you agree? > > > _______________________________________________ squid-users mailing > list squid-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJU4jkNAAoJENNXIZxhPexGD68H/0qJA1sZQ2Pv6v+6kSSNw1Az h6cRXpV6u/pUQF+oJf7xV0l/iqBtxGsyhYX6HTz48xinm27COzC6cwiuTVlgRVxA W3jDJaQmTjzTKHogOZ1sRviww0pu2LQWzUIPkDA7k7cfpTDaVVUpLd4dCgg5YqGK ZRCQZtNWqvfpMtZ3i/UInRLgxl1BI8TFQk73PhUL0XzyHnn7StYdM4HIuG+LJBTS i24Chot+d00C8yKz62ZOaBw2z1j0dOC4xAMShMY7YHlJgV6cX0Uvqm86EBOJbvpm rhsiNMAjFyCAuXTx04WX6yHxzVfIx23bEvBN46S+s8OBWEW3h1hfjigYkPVtR1E= =+kqp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ squid-users mailing list squid-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://lists.squid-cache.org/listinfo/squid-users