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Re: SSL Bump and certificate pinning

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On Monday 01 September 2014 at 12:07:57 (EU time), Steve Hill wrote:

> Mozilla have announced that Firefox 32 does public key pinning:
> http://monica-at-mozilla.blogspot.co.uk/2014/08/firefox-32-supports-public-
> key-pinning.html
> 
> Obviously this has the potential to render SSL-bump considerably less
> useful.  At the moment it seems to be restricted to a small number of
> domains, but that's sure to increase.
> 
> Whilst I support the idea of ensuring that traffic isn't surreptitiously
> intercepted, there are legitimate instances where interception is
> necessary *and* the user is fully aware that it is happening (and has
> therefore imported the proxy's CA certificate into their key chain).  So
> I'm wondering if there is any kind of workaround to keep SSL-bump
> working with these sites?

>From https://wiki.mozilla.org/SecurityEngineering/Public_Key_Pinning

Starting with FF 32, it's on by default, so you don't have to do anything. The 
pinning level is enforced by a pref, security.cert_pinning.enforcement_level 

 0. Pinning disabled 
 1. Allow User MITM (pinning not enforced if the trust anchor is a user 
inserted CA, default) 
 2. Strict. Pinning is always enforced. 
 3. Enforce test mode.

That seems to me to say that if the root of the certificate chain is a user-
added cert, pinning will not be enforced, therefore the user isn't affected?

> 1. It seems to me that imported CA certs should have some kind of flag
> associated with them to indicate that they should be trusted even for
> pinned domains.
> 2. I'm guessing that this is not an issue for devices that *always* go
> through an intercepting proxy, since presumably they would never get to
> see the real cert, so wouldn't pin it?  So this is mainly an issue for
> devices that move between networks?


Regards,


Antony.

-- 
Tinned food was developed for the British Navy in 1813.

The tin opener was not invented until 1858.

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