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On 30/01/2014 11:52 p.m., Amon Ott wrote:
> Am 30.01.2014 10:45, schrieb Amos Jeffries:
>> On 30/01/2014 9:25 p.m., Amon Ott wrote:
>>> Am 29.01.2014 21:51, schrieb Amos Jeffries:
>>>> On 2014-01-30 03:48, Amon Ott wrote:
>>>>> We have a setup with a single parent proxy that shall be used for all
>>>>> requests. "never_direct allow all" ensures that the parent is not to be
>>>>> bypassed. Still, every request leads to an extra unnecessary (and
>>>>> failing) DNS lookup. We enjoyed several complaints because of unwanted
>>>>> DNS traffic inside a firewalled area. As all results are negative, even
>>>>> the DNS caching does not really help.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have traced the problem into peerSelectDnsPaths() in
>>>>> src/peer_select.cc. It seems that despite the clear fact that only one
>>>>> cache_peer can ever be selected (and has to be selected), the code still
>>>>> makes a DNS request for the hostname in the requested URL to find the
>>>>> best proxy. It would be greatly appreciated if we could suppress these
>>>>> lookups without loosing DNS access for parent proxy lookup by DNS name.
>>>>> The lookup does not make any sense to me even with multiple parents, if
>>>>> the parent selection is never based on the request target host.

Please enable debug_options 44,2 to find evidence of that peer selection.

Squid-3.4 cache.log shows "Find IP destination for:" and what URL on the
lookup starting, the "via XX" is what DNS hostname is about to be looked up.

The results when all (your 1 peer) are done will be shown following a
line saying "Failed to select source for" or "Found sources for" with
the same URL followed by some lines saying what those sources were.


<snip>
> 
>>> Since the DNS lookup fails anyway, the solution could be as simple as
>>> having a simple switch to forbid URL target host DNS lookups completely.
>>> Parent proxy selection could still continue like after failed DNS lookup.
>>
>> If the DNS lookup fails there Squid has no idea where the cache_peer has
>> been moved to when it changes. And never_direct prevents alternative IPs
>> being looked for.
> 
> I seem to have been unclear here: I want to get rid of DNS lookups of
> request URL hosts, not of DNS lookups for the parent proxy. ATM, every
> single Web request over the proxy seems to trigger a DNS lookup for that
> host. tcpdump clearly shows tons of requests for external DNS names to
> our DNS server.
> 
> It seems to me that the parent selection algorithm always looks up the
> host in the user request URL at the place mentioned above, even though
> it is only needed with certain per-parent ACLs or if the proxies might
> get bypassed for speed. Maybe the lookup could be delayed until it is
> really needed for a decision. AFAICS, the new "-n" parameter to ACLs in
> 3.4 has a similar idea, it avoids DNS traffic.

The config file you sent has nothing in it that would *ever* cause Squid
to preform DNS lookup on the URL domain.

There are ACLs checking various details of the client IP:port, one
lookup of the DNS name of the cache_peer in order to connect to it. That
is all.

peerSelectDnsPaths() is handling the DNS lookup for whats shown in the
config file as "my.uplink.proxy".

never_direct prevents the request host being selected at all. No DNS is
involved with that "allow all" check and once that has been done the
request URL is ignored.

So I am very interested in what your cache.log results from above will show.

Amos




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