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How about Digest authentication?

Does digest is as weak as NTLM?

and another question:

Is it possible to use Kerberos (actually Negotiate) protocol for squid
user authentication in a network without any Active Directory or
Domain?


On 9/14/10, Amos Jeffries <squid3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 11:28:13 -0500, Terry <td3201@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I have a working NTLM implementation in place and it works great from
>> yum and wget for example.  However, when I try to use squid from IE8,
>> it prompts for password and I never see the credentials hit squid,
>> just this for example:
>> 1284395121.846      0 10.8.1.100 TCP_DENIED/407 1798 GET
>> http://google.com/ - NONE/- text/html
>>
>> I have added google.com to IE's local intranet zone and gave that zone
>> low priority so I am not sure where the problem lies.   Here's my
>> configuration:
>>
>> auth_param ntlm program /usr/bin/ntlm_auth
>> --helper-protocol=squid-2.5-ntlmssp
>> --require-membership-of="DOM\\proxyusers"
>> auth_param ntlm children 5
>> auth_param basic program /usr/bin/ntlm_auth
>> --helper-protocol=squid-2.5-basic
>> --require-membership-of="DOM\\proxyusers"
>> auth_param basic children 5
>> auth_param basic realm Squid proxy-caching web server
>> auth_param basic credentialsttl 5 hours
>>
>> acl NTLMUsers proxy_auth REQUIRED
>> http_access allow all NTLMUsers
>>
>> I can test fine from the squid server:
>> [root@proxy01a squid]# ntlm_auth --helper-protocol=squid-2.5-basic
>> DOM\jmama password
>> OK
>>
>> What am I missing?
>
> The fact that NTLM has been obsolete for 8 years now? It's encryption
> schemes were demonstrated to be decrypted in under 15 minutes with a
> standard consumer desktop as of a year or so ago.
> Microsoft have declared is deprecated in favor of Kerberos back in the
> early stages of Vista and all their newer software attempts to do Kerberos
> instead.  IE8 and Windows 7 are known to have NTLM fully disabled by
> default, with some hoop-jumping needed to open up those hole again.
>
> *Please* look at upgrading your network to Negotiate/Kerberos. It's much
> more secure, faster and very much less resource hungry than NTLM.
>
> Amos
>


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