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Agreed.

So if I read your mail correctly you want to say:
- net ads join uses _computer-name_ to identify the authentication scheme
- msktutil (kerberos) only watches at the _service_ (http,cifs,...)

The HowTo should look like:
1.
use net ads join to talk via computer-name with AD

2
use msktutil _with a non-existend computer-name_ so that the associated
HOST/<non-existendhostname> can not correlate with net ads join
Only the sericePrincipal HTTP/<fqdn> is important for squid/kerberos.


Have I understood you in the right way?
And will it work to use a non-existend hostname, or will msktutil fail? :-)

The best way would be - the client sends an NTLM token and squid_kerb_auth 
does the rest. :-)


Thanks for support.
I can imagine lots of other squid-users use net ads join and want to implement 
kerberos too.

Regards
Andrew


Am Freitag, 25. September 2009 01:07:44 schrieb Markus Moeller:
> "Henrik Nordstrom" <henrik@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:1253822657.5592.1.camel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> > tor 2009-09-24 klockan 10:09 +0200 skrev Mrvka Andreas:
> >> You are right - I have to use NTLM too because there are many IE 6
> >> around.
> >> But I use the same name for kerberos_auth and ntlm_auth
> >> (kerberos - samba/winbind)
> >> How should I configure a browser setting then? I want to set only one
> >> proxy
> >> server.
> >
> > Hmm.. I then suspect the HTTP ticket will get mismatch again in some
> > time when the computer account is renewed by Samba.
> 
> I think so too.  Let me try to explain. Each entry in AD has a key
> associated with it. For a user account the key is based on the user
>  password and for a computer it is based on a random password. As you may
>  have seen each entry in AD has also a serviceprincipalname attribute. This
>  attribute is used to associate a Kerberos principal with a key. You will
>  see a computer account has usually a HOST/<shorthostname> host/fqdn
> serviceprincipal name and HTTP/fqdn if IIS is installed and cifs/fqdn for
> fileshares.
> 
> net ads join creates an entry in AD with a random password with
>  CN=hostname. If you use msktutil with --computer-name hostname the same AD
>  entry will be used and since both commands will  set a random password you
>  will get conflicts. For Kerberos the computer name doesn't matter (only
>  the serviceprinciplname attribute is important) why you should use
>  msktutil with any computer name (e.g. <shorthostname>-http) to avoid the
>  conflict.
> 
> Additionally msktutil sets the userprincipalname when you use --upn. The
> userprincipalname is used to authenticate a principal (user or other e.g.
> HTTP/<fqdn>) via kinit.  So if you use msktutil as described kinit -kt
> <keytab> HTTP/<fqdn> will authenticate HTTP/<fqdn> with the key (=
>  encrypted random password) stored in the keytab.
> 
> > If that's the case then I also guess you should be able to automatically
> > renew the HTTP ticket using the Samba keytab however. But Kerberos is
> > not my main field of expertise..
> >
> > Regards
> > Henrik
> 
> Regards
> Markus
> 

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