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Amos,

I am having problems with Squid everyday.. twice everyday to be precise.
Squid stops responding.. I have to restart squid service to resume
service. Even the old cache_mem = 100MB setting had the same problem,
the current setting of cache_dir = null /tmp is also giving the same
problem.

How do i resolve this?
Avinash


On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Avinash Rao <avinash.aol@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Avinash Rao <avinash.aol@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 4:31 PM, Amos Jeffries <squid3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> Avinash Rao wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 10:54 AM, Avinash Rao <avinash.aol@xxxxxxxxx>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Amos Jeffries <squid3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Avinash Rao wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Dear all,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I am sure this question would have been posted many times. I read a
> >>>>>> few threads, but my requirement or setup is a bit different. I am
> >>>>>> running Squid2.6stable18 on Ubuntu Server 8.04 Server 64-bit installed
> >>>>>> on Sun Fire X4150 Server with 8GB RAM + 8 SAS HDD's - RAID 5 + 2 Quad
> >>>>>> Core Intel Xeon Processors.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I have both LTSP and WinXP clients using Squid. Many times i have
> >>>>>> noticed, squid stops responding, the browser keeps trying to connect
> >>>>>> and i don't see any error in cache.log or store.log. My only way out
> >>>>>> is to restart squid.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Usually means Squid is doing something with its on-disk storage.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I read through cache_mem, my current configuration is 100MB,  i
> >>>>>> changed it to 128MB, but squid couldn't start saying the cache_mem is
> >>>>>> more than cache_disk size.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Why does this happen and what is the recommended configuration for the
> >>>>>> hardware i have?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> You are missing a cache_dir option. Which means Squid-2 will be using
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> default and very inefficient 100 MB ufs formatted storage.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Squid-3.1 and later are the only releases of Squid where cache_dir can
> >>>>> be
> >>>>> fully removed from the config.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Either define a cache_dir to use the disks or setup the "null" cache_dir
> >>>>> type for memory-only storage.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> squid.conf: Please donot compare this config to my other posts, as
> >>>>>> this is on a different server and it has a very basic configuration.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> visible_hostname sunserver
> >>>>>> hierarchy_stoplist cgi-bin ?
> >>>>>> acl QUERY urlpath_regex cgi-bin \?
> >>>>>> no_cache deny QUERY
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Drop 'no_cache' use instead:
> >>>>>  cache deny QUERY
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> hosts_file /etc/hosts
> >>>>>> http_port 10.10.10.10:3128
> >>>>>> refresh_pattern ^ftp: 1440 20% 10080
> >>>>>> refresh_pattern ^gopher: 1440 0% 1440
> >>>>>> refresh_pattern . 0 20% 4320
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> acl all src 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0
> >>>>>> acl manager proto cache_object
> >>>>>> acl localhost src 127.0.0.1/255.255.255.255
> >>>>>> acl to_localhost dst 127.0.0.0/8
> >>>>>> acl SSL_ports port 443 563
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 80                # http
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 21                # ftp
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 443 563           # https, snews
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 70                # gopher
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 210               # wais
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 1025-65535        # unregistered ports
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 280               # http-mgmt
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 488               # gss-http
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 591               # filemaker
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 631               # cups
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 777               # multiling http
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 901               # SWAT
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 993               # IMAP
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 587               # SMTP
> >>>>>> acl Safe_ports port 22                # SSH
> >>>>>> acl purge method PURGE
> >>>>>> acl special_urls url_regex "/etc/squid/squid-noblock.acl"
> >>>>>> acl extndeny url_regex -i "/etc/squid/blocks.files.acl"
> >>>>>> acl malware_block_list url_regex -i "/etc/squid/malware_block_list.txt"
> >>>>>> acl badurl url_regex -i teen orkut youtube sex mp3 mp4
> >>>>>> acl lan src 10.10.10.0/24
> >>>>>> acl stud ident_regex babu
> >>>>>> acl download method GET
> >>>>>> acl CONNECT method CONNECT
> >>>>>> cache_mem 100 MB
> >>>>>> ident_lookup_access allow all
> >>>>>> deny_info http://malware.hiperlinks.com.br/denied.shtml
> >>>>>> malware_block_list
> >>>>>> http_access allow manager localhost
> >>>>>> http_access deny manager
> >>>>>> http_access allow purge localhost
> >>>>>> http_access allow special_urls
> >>>>>> http_access deny extndeny download
> >>>>>> http_access deny extndeny
> >>>>>> http_access deny purge
> >>>>>> http_access deny !Safe_ports
> >>>>>> http_access deny CONNECT !SSL_ports
> >>>>>> http_access deny badurl
> >>>>>> http_access deny malware_block_list
> >>>>>> http_access allow localhost
> >>>>>> http_access allow lan
> >>>>>> http_access deny all
> >>>>>> http_reply_access allow all
> >>>>>> icp_access allow all
> >>>>>> coredump_dir /var/spool/squid
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Many Thanks
> >>>>>> Avinash
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Please be using
> >>>>>  Current Stable Squid 2.7.STABLE6 or 3.0.STABLE18
> >>>>>  Current Beta Squid 3.1.0.13
> >>>>>
> >>>> Thank you all for the information. I read the documentation.
> >>>> To begin with I have set cache_dir to 256MB and cache_mem also to 256
> >>>> MB. Which takes the precedence? I guess the pages are stored/retrieved
> >>>> from the RAM. Does this setting mean that, once 256MB is reached in
> >>>> RAM it will start storing the pages in cache_dir?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Avinash
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi Guys,
> >>>
> >>> I just tested it, but it was pretty slow, the page was not loading
> >>> only. Strange coz,
> >>> the cache_mem is increased to 256MB and its still slow? How does this
> >>> work?
> >>
> >> Everything gets stuffed into cache_mem first.
> >>  - objects which are labeled as too large for memory, or those unlabeled
> >> which grow too large, get pushed to disk. This happens even if not
> >> completely downloaded yet, which can be one cause of slowness on big stuff.
> >>  - objects which have not been used longest get pushed to disk when more
> >> memory space is needed.
> >>  - all memory objects are pushed to disk during shutdown, restart,
> >> reconfigure.
> >>
> >>> According to the squid Documentation, i recommended size for cache_dir
> >>> is 7000 or 8000!
> >>>
> >>> I set cache_dir to null /tmp and i could see a lot of difference and
> >>> it worked pretty well.
> >>
> >> Seems to me that the issue was some things being sent to disk storage.
> >> Combined with severe speed problems reading/waiting from that disk storage.
> >>
> >> You said you have RAID5 so I'm not surprised its slow.
> >> RAID and Squid do NOT play well together. Squid treats the disk as
> >> random-access media using as many access threads as it can obtain in
> >> parallel. Doing 4KB chunk operations.
> >>
> >> Amos
> >> --
> >> Please be using
> >>  Current Stable Squid 2.7.STABLE6 or 3.0.STABLE18
> >>  Current Beta Squid 3.1.0.13
> >>
> >
> >
> > Thank you for the explanation. Its working well now, LTSP users are
> > satisfied with the speed. I awaiting feedback from Windows Users as
> > more than 25users login at the same time and use Internet.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Avinash
> >
>
>
> I just noticed that LTSP is behaving a bit strange, today morning all
> the applications were openly very slowly and none of the ltsp users
> are able to lock their computers. Applications like Mozilla,
> Openoffice are not responding properly. Is this bcoz, i set cache_dir
> to null.
>
> will all the free memory in the system be used with this setting?
> How can i resolve this?
>
> Avinash


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