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On Tue, 01 Sep 2009 15:38:24 +0200, apmailist@xxxxxxx wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> 
> We are switching from an LDAP authentication to an AD one.
> It works GREAT either with basic [password in clear :-(  ] or ntlm
> authentication schemes. SSO was also requested, and works great.
> 
> We have one problem though :
> - during the tests, some user accounts get locked very often. ( after 5
> attempts).
> We know it comes from software trying to connect to internet with older
> passwords. But as we cannot guarantee it will not happen on a large scale
> when
> we migrate,
> ->> I am looking for a way to prevent these accounts getting locked.
> 
> I thought of two solutions :
> 
> 1.
> I searched for a way to make Squid only ask 3 times in a row for a valid
> credential. But couldn't find it : Any clue ?

Not possible.  There is no such thing as a 'repeat' in HTTP.  Every request
is 'new'.

> (After three bad attempts, Squid would not send a 407, but a 200 with the
> error
> page , maybe ?)
> 
> 2.
> The other solution I went for was a more relaxed authentication scheme :
> using
> fakeauth_auth (NTLM), and basic as a failback for non-sso browsers.
> The idea is the following :
> IE ( the in-house main browser ) would send the windows credential in a
sso
> way
> (thus the user is logged) in an automatic way (meaning the user doesn't
see
> it,
> and cannot tamper the authentication). We rely on IE to send us the
> username
> (windows logon credential)
> Other browsers (FF) would use the basic scheme to send it's credentials.

IE is the most limited of all browsers security-wise. Other web browsers
are mostly capable of NTLM and more advanced authentication Schemes without
the bugs IE has.

> 
> The problem is that at least one browser that is NTLM-compatible (Opera)
is
> able
> to provide the user with a prompt during the authentication : And the
user
> may
> give any valid account, along with any password.

This is true of _all_ web browsers.

> Here are the two lines :
> auth_param ntlm program /proxy3/libexec/fakeauth_auth
> auth_param basic program /proxy3/libexec/squid_ldap_auth  -P -ZZ -v 3 -c
5
> -t 5
> -b ou=BLABLA -f(sAMAccountName=%s) -D "cn=reqaccount-BLABLA" -W
> /proxy3/etc/ldapauth_prd_secretfile -h dc002.fgn.com dc003.global.fgn.com
> Inverting the two lines forces all browsers to use the basic
> authentication.
> Is there a way to do NTLM only with SSO able browsers, and then revert to
> BASIC
> for all the others ?

Yes. By using what you have configured above.
The problem you face is that Squid sends out a list of available methods.
Then the browser chooses the authentication method its going to use and
sends credentials. If those credentials fail Squid responds with a
407/'failed try again' and the browser does whatever it can to get new
credentials. Usually they start with a popup window to ask the user.


> I figure playing with useragent strings wouldn't be enough, because Opera
> can
> easily masquerade as IE (or used to).

Agent strings is not relevant, only the credentials the browser pass to
Squid and the method chosen to send them.


What I would do in your place is setup an external ACL which accepted the
Proxy-Auth header and processed it.
Detect old-style logins and redirect to a special error page saying to
change their settings.
If the type is 'Basic' it returns OK. Otherwise ERR. 

external_acl_type oldAuthTest %{Proxy-Authentication} /bla.sh
acl oldAuth external oldAuthTest
deny_info http://blah.example.com/fix-your-proxy-login.html oldAuth
http_access deny oldAuth

... http_access bits to do the new login stuff go below ...

Amos

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