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On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 18:46:32 -0700, George Herbert
<george.herbert@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2009 at 6:13 PM, Amos Jeffries<squid3@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>> On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 20:55:06 -0400, Fulko Hew <fulko.hew@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>> I'm new to squid, and I thought I could use it as a proxy to detect
>>> transactions
>>> that don't succeed and return a page to the browser that would display
>>> an error page that re-submitted the original request (again) say 15
>> seconds
>>> later.  (I want to use this to hide network and server failure from
>>> end users at a kiosk.)
>>>
>>> I've figured out how to do most of this for http transactions, but my
>>> real target
>>> uses https and when I look at the squid logs I see a transaction called
>>> CONNECT ... DIRECT ...
>>>
>>> and these don't seem to go through, or at the very least it seems as
>> though
>>> the connections are not proxied, and hence DNS resolution and
connection
>>> failures aren't captured and don't result in squid error pages returned
>> to
>>> the
>>> browser.
>>
>> Close. For https:// the browser is makign regular HTTP request, wrapped
>> in
>> SSL encryption. Then that itself is wrapped again inside a CONNECT.
>>
>> Squid just opens a CONNECT tunnel and shovels the bytes through. The SSL
>> connection is made inside the tunnel direct for client to server, and
the
>> HTTPS stuff happens without Squid.
>>
>> IIRC there was some problem found with browsers displaying any custom
>> response to a CONNECT failure. You want to look at the "deny_info
>> ERR_CONNECT_FAIL" page replacement or such.
>>
>>>
>>> Is this actually possible, and if so... what directives should I be
>> looking
>>> at for the config file.
>>
>> Squid 3.1 provides a SslBump feature to unwrap the CONNECT and proxy the
>> SSL portions. But decrypting the SSL link mid-way is called a
>> man-in-middle
>> security attack. The browser security pops up a warning dialog box to
the
>> users every time this happens. I would not think this will be popular or
>> good for a kiosk situation.
> 
> I don't know if Squid knows how to do this (haven't checked), but
> other load balancers, accelerators, and firewalls can sometimes have
> the site SSL / https keys installed to allow them to interact with
> https content going back and forth.  There's a ethereal / wireshark
> module to provide it your site key to decrypt that traffic.
> 
> That does only work if:
> 
> a) you own both ends of the link (not clear from first email),
> b) your software supports it
> c) you trust your proxies with your site keys

That is exactly the SslBump feature I mentioned. It causes browser popups
when they validate the cert and discover that the domain they are
contacting has the wrong credentials.
Users often ignore such popups, but for this public kiosk situation its
very likely to lead to complaints and a minor scandal.

Amos


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