thanks for your reply, i have a very restricted time, befor i tried to use web polygraph but the commands in the site's document were unknown for the shell, and i really dont know what to do, then i tried webstone : http://www.mindcraft.com/webstone/faq.html (about 11 pages manual against 200 for polygraph!) i think this one is easier but there are some problems in setting it up again! can you please help me on this???