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Lucky you are

Well here in Switzerland the Cable Network is built by Cablecom, and there
network is often very lousy quality and slow --> especially while the "rush
hours" sometimes the effective rate (i have a 10MBit Abo) is going to 5 MBit
or even less and downloads and gameservers p.a. will be timed out *** very
angry ***

--> in my oppion the main problem with the cablecom network resulted in
Takeovers of other Telco's in the past. Traceroute are going directly to
aorta.net(the main firm which holds Cablecom) and so they are spreded around
the Inet over transits outside switzerland

and the other stuff is, that CC packed all other medias, like Digital TV and
Digital Phone on the same backbone which clearly results in a bottleneck

But Cablecom has promised to upgrade their network as soon as possible (only
god knows, when exactly)

anyway:

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Marco Hahnen - ITSM [mailto:Marco.Hahnen@xxxxxxx]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. September 2007 15:37
An: squid-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Betreff: RE:  Re:[squid-users] Re:[squid-users] Re:Re:
 Re:Re: [squid-users] How to setup two ADSL line on a
single linux box?


Again, in Germany most (probably all) Cable Providers build up their
networks so that those bottlenecks are not occurring.

At home I am using ISH (UnityMedia) 6MBit and I never noticed that the speed
dramatically reduced. Even in peak hours the speed was always great. I know
many other people which are using cable too and they never noticed those
bottlenecks.

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-----Original Message-----
From: elvis.altherr@xxxxxxxxxx [mailto:elvis.altherr@xxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Mittwoch, 12. September 2007 15:20
To: squid-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject:  Re:[squid-users] Re:[squid-users] Re:Re:
 Re:Re: [squid-users] How to setup two ADSL line on a single
linux box?

Something to remeber:

Most Providers do traffic shaping, which means, more than the limit isn't
possible and the rest will be cutted!

in the past i had a ADSL and Cable Line and for testing porpouses i tried
load balancing, but the speed was'nt doubled (5 MB + 5MB), i reached a
maximum of 7 MBits instead of 10MBits

Reason: Cable is a star topology network and therefore if much users are
online there on the same headend the speed will be dramatically reduced,
while this doesn't affect ADSL (which is normally separated)

However: after changing completely to Cable 10Mbit everything worked fine
and my ADSL was obsolete.

regards

E.Altherr



>Sorry wrong, you're right, but works only with two different lines (ADSL
and Cable p.a) but not with ADSL,cause this tecnology is a sinlge line
solution
>
>in my earlier posts there was a statement about channel bundeling for ADSL
(linke ISDN) and this woud increase the bandwith disscused in germany
>
>http://www.gatworks.de/ADSL_Kanalbuendelung.191.0.html
>(sorry only german)
>
>regards
>
>E.Altherr
>
>Not shure, if it works so, will say: if you have two lines and do alternate
routing on both lines (any experinces by other users??)
>
>
>
>>Hm, but with my method described it won't work so...
>>
>>If you have 2 ADSL Lines (let's say 5 MBit each ) ) after load balacing
the bandwidth woud be the same. the only goal is failover for the lines more
not. Much ADSL Carriers (like Swisscom in Switzerland) limit the bandwith so
you can't go over the limit, or ADSL won't work
>>
>>For this case VDSL is (on my oppion) the better solution, the only
requirement for VDSL is a new Router/Modem on the client side, which can
handle the higher speed level and of course for VDSL the wires must be
excellent quality with no distortion, or otherwise VDSL won't work
>>
>>
>>>On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 11:34:52 +0200 (MEST)
>>>elvis.altherr@xxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>>>
>>>> as i described below:
>>>>
>>>> it's not possible (at the moment) to open 2 ADSL Ports on the same
>>>> telefony wire... so if you have 2 5 MB Lines you will have still 2
>>>> 5MB Lines after implementing this solution more not) If the Line is
>>>> open (on the DSLAM which is managed by the telefony carrier, you have
>>>> normally one port configured for ADSL)
>>>>
>>>> So its a illusion to think, that you can do this
>>>
>>>The OP did refer to two adsl lines. However there is not all that much
>>>redundancy in this scheme, since a lot of faults will takeout both
>>>lines . You can increase it if there are multiple companies with
>>>their own dsl equipment in the exchange. Some  people use cable+adsl for
>>>this kind of thing.
>>>
>>>I guess the idea here though is just to improve bandwidth.
>>>
>>>
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